SendRail

Productivity

file transfer

SHOW HN2012

76points
50comments
#312of 1,677 in 2012
Top 19%of 2012 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

4 positive, 8 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 16 critical, out of 30 comments about the project. Thread score -0.31.

Idea: 3 for, 6 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 6 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Solves the email file attachment problem with simple ease of use

    From 3 comments
    • I love seeing apps that replace what we misuse email for -- e.g. sending files to a friend -- and looks like you guys have that spot on. The biggest issue with other solutions is…
      ericz on HN
    • Every time people think about a solution about this (to my mind) huge e-mail issue I'm really happy to be not the only one who is sick of the existing solutions out there. I used…
      lixef on HN
    • Looks so simple, it's hard to believe it's really true. Good job! Can't wait to get my invite.
      kirillzubovsky on HN
  • Desktop OS X integration looks good

    From 1 comment
    • Cool product and integration with OS X. Your video needs a lot of work - you're talking way too much about technical things like 'threads' 'asynchronous' and 'in the background'…
      latortuga on HN

Objections

  • Requiring Facebook login limits users and raises privacy concerns

    From 5 comments
    • We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's Facebook message inbox. You might want to consider offering a couple of different…
      miles on HN
    • I'll never use a service that requires a FB login exclusively.
      mtgx on HN
    • Half the internet may use Facebook, but how many people, in the target audience for this service, prefer to tie as little as possible to their Facebook account? I know that if a…
      misnome on HN
    • It may well be a great product, but sadly as soon as I see the word "facebook", my gut reaction is good bye privacy, there for Im automatically excluded. Shame.
      alan_cx on HN
    • "All our files are encrypted with top of the line 256-bit AES encryption. We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's…
      webwanderings on HN
  • Unclear whether it is truly peer-to-peer since files go through servers

    From 3 comments
    • Peer to peer? I guess I am getting old. I can remember when peer to peer meant that one host would communicate directly to the other host and not store the file transfer on a…
      dfc on HN
    • Amen, brother! These were my assumptions as well when clicking the link. It would be more accurate to call this service peer-to-server-to-another-server-to-peer.
      miles on HN
    • We only store the file on our central server if the receiving end doesn't have our app. If they have the app, we create a direct connection between both parties and transfer the…
      ritikm on HN
  • No clear business model or pricing

    From 3 comments
    • So how do you plan to make money? I can't see any pricing information, so I guess this is yet another case of users being the product.
      white_devil on HN
    • Seriously, how are they going to make money in the future? Is it just free in the alpha?
      lixef on HN
    • how will you generate revenue?
      tashmahalic on HN
  • Site served over HTTP rather than HTTPS

    From 1 comment
  • File size limits are unclear

    From 1 comment
    • That's a little disappointing, because it means your claim to have no file size limits can't really be true. What is the real limit for sending a file to someone who doesn't have…
      mapgrep on HN

Requests

  • Offer non-Facebook sign-up options

    From 2 comments
    • We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's Facebook message inbox. You might want to consider offering a couple of different…
      miles on HN
    • Agreed: Many groups block FB; if you want any corporate or business use, you probably don't want to require FB logins.
      mwexler on HN
  • Clarify file storage duration

    From 1 comment
    • Every time people think about a solution about this (to my mind) huge e-mail issue I'm really happy to be not the only one who is sick of the existing solutions out there. I used…
      lixef on HN
  • Clarify how firewalls are handled

    From 1 comment
    • So you actually think this is a P2P architecture? On a related note how do you handle firewall piercing?
      dfc on HN

Questions

  • How will the service generate revenue?

    From 3 comments
    • So how do you plan to make money? I can't see any pricing information, so I guess this is yet another case of users being the product.
      white_devil on HN
    • Seriously, how are they going to make money in the future? Is it just free in the alpha?
      lixef on HN
    • how will you generate revenue?
      tashmahalic on HN
  • How are Facebook messages sent programmatically?

    From 2 comments
    • We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's Facebook message inbox. Technical question: how are they able to do this? I…
      itmag on HN
    • Side note, but I'm curious: what do you use to send messages directly to the Facebook messages inbox? The standard FB dialog or is there some Graph API endpoint that will let you…
      fomojola on HN
  • What happens if a transfer is interrupted?

    From 1 comment
    • Curiosity question: what happens if I disconnect my machine halfway through a direct transfer? Do you support continued download/upload (or multipart)? I guess in the case of a…
      spartango on HN

Alternatives named

  • WeTransfer, YouSendIt, Crate, ge.tt

    From 1 comment
    • We use Facebook to validate your identity and send the download link directly to the recipient's Facebook message inbox. You might want to consider offering a couple of different…
      miles on HN
  • Share (BitTorrent), SoShare

    From 2 comments
    • How are you different from SoShare[1]? [1]: http://www.getshareapp.com/
      icebraining on HN
    • You may be confused at what Share is; it's a desktop application that uses the bittorrent protocol[1] to do P2P transfers between users. It integrates with Facebook for very much…
      icebraining on HN
  • Sendoid, Dropbox, Skype

    From 1 comment
    • This seems almost identical to Sendoid which appears to have died completely. For asynch file sharing, we can use Dropbox, for synchronous file sharing, Skype. Is there a file…
      dools on HN
  • Dropdock, copyfile.net, FilesOverMiles, Nitroshare

    From 4 comments
    • Great that other smart people are trying to make sending files easier! We at Dropdock ( http:/getdropdock.com/getstarted , check at the end for invite code ) are also working on…
      knes on HN
    • I literally just finished something today that attempts to solve a similar problem: http://copyfile.net/
      aprescott on HN
    • I use a flash based p2p file transfer service for this now: http://www.filesovermiles.com/ Can't really see how this could be more convenient to me.
      bencoder on HN
    • I am surprised that nobody mentioned Nitroshare, which is great for a number of use cases, and completely free
      slurgfest on HN

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