Lumier
Dev tools
virtual machine manager
SHOW HN2025
How HN took it
4 positive, 24 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 10 critical, out of 40 comments about the project. Thread score -0.23.
Idea: 4 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 5 againstPerformance: 0 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against
The thread, comment by comment
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What HN said
What people liked
Lume CLI described as a superset of Tart's functionality
From 1 comment
There’s no mention of Tart in there, but I’ve looked into Lume CLI some more and it seems it’s basically a superset of Tart in functionality. (And both use container registries…
notpushkin on HN
Usable for CI with Xcode builds via Tuist
From 1 comment
Yes! That’s actually what https://tuist.dev is doing. They use Lume to spin up ephemeral macOS VMs with Xcode preinstalled, so they can run builds in clean, reproducible…
frabonacci on HN
Objections
Title is misleading since macOS VMs do not run inside Docker
From 2 comments
The title is a bit misleading then :) What’s the difference between this vs just using your lume CLI? Right now it feels like a worse interface to lume, but maybe I’m not getting…
notpushkin on HNThis is not "running macOS VMs in Docker". This is "running debian noVNC clients in Docker that connect to the same macOS host system". I mean it's great that you use the Apple…
h4ck_th3_pl4n3t on HN
Docker on macOS adds a Linux VM overhead that is hard to justify
From 3 comments
Docker does seem to be an unnecessary overhead considering it's reliance on a Linux VM. What does Docker bring to the table that couldn't easily be replaced with a native Mac app?
RobMurray on HNWhat I think you’re not addressing is the question about the Linux VM that Docker requires on a Mac. I don’t think there is a question about the benefits of Docker from a…
mbreese on HN> inside a lightweight Linux VM Docker VMM, the latest virtualization option for Apple Silicon Macs, requires a minimum of 4GB of memory to be allocated to the Docker Linux VM.…
nottorp on HN
Unclear security implications of container access to host virtualization
From 1 comment
how does the docker guest orchestrate a completely different virtualization system? is the guest container in docker given access to the host system to then spin up the apple vm…
kelsey98765431 on HN
Requests
Support for running macOS VMs on Linux hosts
From 1 comment
Slightly off topic, does anyone know a good way to run Mac VMs on Linux hosts?
OsrsNeedsf2P on HN
Support for App Store access and older macOS versions like Big Sur
From 2 comments
I'll ask again, since I didn't receive an answer up till now: is it capable of running macOS Big Sur on an ( Apple Silicon{M1 or later} + macOS Monterey{or higher} ) host? If so,…
JayDustheadz on HNThanks, but the issue is I don't need XCode. It's a weird use case, I know - I need to be able to access App Store to download old versions of Apple's Motion/Final Cut Pro, ones…
JayDustheadz on HN
Questions
How does this differ from using the lume CLI or UTM directly
From 2 comments
The title is a bit misleading then :) What’s the difference between this vs just using your lume CLI? Right now it feels like a worse interface to lume, but maybe I’m not getting…
notpushkin on HNI already do this with UTM. Whats the difference? Worth converting?
helpfulContrib on HN
Can macOS run with SIP disabled in these VMs
From 1 comment
Would Lumier allow me to virtualize macOS with system integrity protection (SIP) disabled?
roundup on HN
Alternatives named
Tart
From 1 comment
The title is a bit misleading then :) What’s the difference between this vs just using your lume CLI? Right now it feels like a worse interface to lume, but maybe I’m not getting…
notpushkin on HN
UTM
From 1 comment
I already do this with UTM. Whats the difference? Worth converting?
helpfulContrib on HN
Docker-OSX
From 1 comment
https://github.com/sickcodes/Docker-OSX can do it
Fizzadar on HN