Lumier

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virtual machine manager

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How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

4 positive, 24 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 10 critical, out of 40 comments about the project. Thread score -0.23.

Idea: 4 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 5 againstPerformance: 0 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Lume CLI described as a superset of Tart's functionality

    From 1 comment
    • There’s no mention of Tart in there, but I’ve looked into Lume CLI some more and it seems it’s basically a superset of Tart in functionality. (And both use container registries…
      notpushkin on HN
  • Usable for CI with Xcode builds via Tuist

    From 1 comment
    • Yes! That’s actually what https://tuist.dev is doing. They use Lume to spin up ephemeral macOS VMs with Xcode preinstalled, so they can run builds in clean, reproducible…
      frabonacci on HN

Objections

  • Title is misleading since macOS VMs do not run inside Docker

    From 2 comments
    • The title is a bit misleading then :) What’s the difference between this vs just using your lume CLI? Right now it feels like a worse interface to lume, but maybe I’m not getting…
      notpushkin on HN
    • This is not "running macOS VMs in Docker". This is "running debian noVNC clients in Docker that connect to the same macOS host system". I mean it's great that you use the Apple…
      h4ck_th3_pl4n3t on HN
  • Docker on macOS adds a Linux VM overhead that is hard to justify

    From 3 comments
    • Docker does seem to be an unnecessary overhead considering it's reliance on a Linux VM. What does Docker bring to the table that couldn't easily be replaced with a native Mac app?
      RobMurray on HN
    • What I think you’re not addressing is the question about the Linux VM that Docker requires on a Mac. I don’t think there is a question about the benefits of Docker from a…
      mbreese on HN
    • > inside a lightweight Linux VM Docker VMM, the latest virtualization option for Apple Silicon Macs, requires a minimum of 4GB of memory to be allocated to the Docker Linux VM.…
      nottorp on HN
  • Unclear security implications of container access to host virtualization

    From 1 comment
    • how does the docker guest orchestrate a completely different virtualization system? is the guest container in docker given access to the host system to then spin up the apple vm…
      kelsey98765431 on HN

Requests

  • Support for running macOS VMs on Linux hosts

    From 1 comment
    • Slightly off topic, does anyone know a good way to run Mac VMs on Linux hosts?
      OsrsNeedsf2P on HN
  • Support for App Store access and older macOS versions like Big Sur

    From 2 comments
    • I'll ask again, since I didn't receive an answer up till now: is it capable of running macOS Big Sur on an ( Apple Silicon{M1 or later} + macOS Monterey{or higher} ) host? If so,…
      JayDustheadz on HN
    • Thanks, but the issue is I don't need XCode. It's a weird use case, I know - I need to be able to access App Store to download old versions of Apple's Motion/Final Cut Pro, ones…
      JayDustheadz on HN

Questions

  • How does this differ from using the lume CLI or UTM directly

    From 2 comments
    • The title is a bit misleading then :) What’s the difference between this vs just using your lume CLI? Right now it feels like a worse interface to lume, but maybe I’m not getting…
      notpushkin on HN
    • I already do this with UTM. Whats the difference? Worth converting?
      helpfulContrib on HN
  • Can macOS run with SIP disabled in these VMs

    From 1 comment
    • Would Lumier allow me to virtualize macOS with system integrity protection (SIP) disabled?
      roundup on HN

Alternatives named

  • Tart

    From 1 comment
    • The title is a bit misleading then :) What’s the difference between this vs just using your lume CLI? Right now it feels like a worse interface to lume, but maybe I’m not getting…
      notpushkin on HN
  • UTM

    From 1 comment
  • Docker-OSX

    From 1 comment

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