RULER

AI

reinforcement learning

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11comments
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How HN took it

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3 positive, 3 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 0 critical, out of 6 comments about the project. Thread score +0.33.

Idea: 1 for, 0 againstDocs: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting, more general than prior RLPR-style approaches

    From 2 comments
    • Excellent, look forward to giving this a go. I was looking at: https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.18254 but your approach is even more general.
      sadiq on HN
    • I really like RLPR for when you have a known-good answer to compare to as well!
      kcorbitt on HN
  • Writeups are appreciated

    From 1 comment

Objections

  • Name collides with NVIDIA's RULER long-context benchmark

    From 2 comments
    • Might end up being some confusion with the RULER benchmark from NVIDIA given the (somewhat shared) domain: https://github.com/NVIDIA/RULER EDIT: by shared I only mean the…
      spmurrayzzz on HN
    • yeah unforutnately for you this is one of the well known long context benchmarks. too late tho, soldier on.
      swyx on HN
  • Possible ordering bias in LLM judge ranking

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool. Do you do anything to mitigate ordering bias in the evaluation function, or do you just expect it to average out over time?
      maxrmk on HN

Requests

  • Explain why o3 underperforms Qwen on the customer support agent task

    From 1 comment
    • how does o3 on the customer support agent task so dreadfully underperform qwen?
      swyx on HN

Questions

  • Whether ordering bias is mitigated in the judge

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool. Do you do anything to mitigate ordering bias in the evaluation function, or do you just expect it to average out over time?
      maxrmk on HN

Alternatives named

  • RLPR

    From 2 comments
    • Excellent, look forward to giving this a go. I was looking at: https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.18254 but your approach is even more general.
      sadiq on HN
    • I really like RLPR for when you have a known-good answer to compare to as well!
      kcorbitt on HN

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