FileRock

Infrastructure

file sync and backup

SHOW HN2013

97points
34comments
#233of 1,739 in 2013
Top 14%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

4 positive, 8 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 5 critical, out of 17 comments about the project. Thread score -0.12.

Privacy: 4 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Open source client allows verifying encryption claims

    From 2 comments
    • On the contrary. As a user of a service the client is the only piece that I really care about wrt data security. If I can verify that the client isn't secretly uploading…
      luser001 on HN
    • Basically, yes, that's the point. Publishing the source code of the client allows the users to be sure that FileRock (Client) isn't "secretly uploading encryption keys to the…
      marcodb on HN

Objections

  • Sync performance is likely weaker than Dropbox

    From 1 comment
    • Good question, difficult answer. We are doing our best. So far, the performance and usage-of-resources are not the fields where we put the most of our effort. Additionally, there…
      n0on3 on HN
  • Sending PBKDF2 output instead of password raises authentication concerns

    From 2 comments
    • i have a question about their authentication process as described at http://blog.filerock.com/2012/06/filerock-security-overview/ they say that they don't send the password over…
      andrewcooke on HN
    • I haven't looked, but assuming they do TLS like everyone else and they haven't provided perfect forward security, then sending the PBKDF2 hash over the wire is still a weakness.…
      darkarmani on HN
  • Some cipher suites lack perfect forward secrecy

    From 1 comment
    • you might want to look at this ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5033540 ) comment on why the PBKDF2 is sent for the authentication rather than the password. As far as…
      n0on3 on HN

Requests

  • Increase PBKDF2 iterations and add cost parameter

    From 1 comment
    • You'd probably want to bump 1000 iterations of PBKDF2 to something like 100000 in the next version. Better: include cost parameter in key format, and calculate the number of…
      dchest on HN
  • Mobile clients

    From 1 comment
    • 1) Where is your pricing info? 2) Do you have mobile clients? 3) What makes this better than encfs on top of dropbox?
      shtylman on HN
  • Support for LAN file sync

    From 1 comment
    • Good question, difficult answer. We are doing our best. So far, the performance and usage-of-resources are not the fields where we put the most of our effort. Additionally, there…
      n0on3 on HN

Questions

  • How does it differ from Least Authority and encfs on Dropbox

    From 2 comments
    • So how do you differentiate your service from Least Authority [0]? [0] https://leastauthority.com/
      Benferhat on HN
    • 1) Where is your pricing info? 2) Do you have mobile clients? 3) What makes this better than encfs on top of dropbox?
      shtylman on HN
  • Pricing details

    From 1 comment
    • 1) Where is your pricing info? 2) Do you have mobile clients? 3) What makes this better than encfs on top of dropbox?
      shtylman on HN

Alternatives named

  • Tahoe-LAFS

    From 1 comment
    • If you absolutely need server stuff, Tahoe-LAFS [0] looks good. The mailing list is great[1-2]. An interesting service uses it, Least Authority[3] offers Tahoe-LAFS-on-S3[4]. It…
      Benferhat on HN
  • ownCloud

    From 1 comment
    • i can really recommend owncloud if you want to run something like this on your own servers - works like a charm. http://owncloud.org
      mars on HN
  • SpiderOak

    From 1 comment
    • SpiderOak (https://spideroak.com) is a zero-knowledge focused and secure backup service that you may want to take a look at.
      SODaniel on HN
  • git-annex

    From 1 comment
    • It's not quite the same, but I've grown very fond of git-annex[1], which is also free software under the same license (GPL 3). With git-annex, it's very simple to create your own…
      chimeracoder on HN
  • Seafile

    From 1 comment
    • i think - from reading descriptions/opinions - that the more recent 'seafile' could be even better.
      johnsea on HN

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