TheBigDB

Data

crowdsourced fact database

SHOW HN2013

133points
76comments
#158of 1,739 in 2013
Top 10%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

7 positive, 17 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 13 critical, out of 39 comments about the project. Thread score -0.10.

Idea: 5 for, 9 againstDesign: 1 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Simple API makes it easy for developers to use

    From 2 comments
    • Congrats, it looks great. So, if I understand correctly, it let people crowdsource any kind of structured and descriptive data ?
      oelmekki on HN
    • Excellent! I've been working on something similar. Trying to come up with a schema that is data-centric is hard enough let alone focusing on the ease of use by developers. Good…
      namank on HN
  • Open alternative to Google-style knowledge is a worthwhile goal

    From 1 comment
    • Great. It may offer a good way to build some kind of open alternative to google now.
      oelmekki on HN

Objections

  • Without standard conventions for predicates and dates, data becomes messy and inconsistent

    From 2 comments
    • Comparison with Freebase: > Simpler structure: There are no datatypes, namespaces, lists, domains. Just ordered nodes. Having a dead simple structure like that allows developers…
      crazygringo on HN
    • Former Freebase, current Google engineer here: First of all, let me say that I'm glad more people are thinking/working in the space of triples. Even unstructured ones like this.…
      barakm on HN
  • Lacks context and disambiguation (e.g. Apple the company vs fruit)

    From 1 comment
    • This is stupid. I hate to say it, but by taking all of the complexity out of Freebase, they forgot the problem Freebase was trying to solve: Semantic integration Right on the…
      JPKab on HN
  • Data license unclear; not open for reuse

    From 1 comment
    • Is it possible to download all data and use it under some open license (like CC-BY)? I can't find data license terms. If no, then sorry, freebase is vastly superior IMHO - from…
      kmike84 on HN
  • Time-dependent facts and immutability are problematic

    From 3 comments
    • Facts don't change.
      DanWaterworth on HN
    • > The easiest example is this: We're in 2010. X has been married to Y since 2009; In the DB it would be represented exactly like that: a "from" time period, no "to" time period,…
      hcarvalhoalves on HN
    • > I can be wrong, but being in a state of marriage with Y is a fact. This is akin to your bank storing the total amount of your account in their database, instead of the…
      hcarvalhoalves on HN

Requests

  • Release the source code as open source

    From 1 comment
    • Any chance to release this as an open source? For example, people would like to have installed in their servers and use it for their own things. I think it would be useful for…
      pmtarantino on HN
  • Add a demo query box on the site

    From 1 comment
    • I appreciate any new service that attempts to organize data / information. With that in mind, I hope this succeeds. A suggestion: it needs a demo query box on the site. Shouldn't…
      adventured on HN
  • Support downloading all data under an open license

    From 2 comments
    • Is it possible to download all data and use it under some open license (like CC-BY)? I can't find data license terms. If no, then sorry, freebase is vastly superior IMHO - from…
      kmike84 on HN
    • Do you support downloads of the data?
      hnriot on HN
  • Show recent facts added

    From 1 comment
    • You should have a list of the most recent facts added to give people a taste of what's in the database.
      ximeng on HN

Questions

  • How does it differ from Freebase and Wikidata?

    From 3 comments
    • Comparison with Freebase: > Simpler structure: There are no datatypes, namespaces, lists, domains. Just ordered nodes. Having a dead simple structure like that allows developers…
      crazygringo on HN
    • Reminds me of Freebase. They built a huge data-set as well as tools and an api to access themselves. Have you talked to anyone on the team? (they are now at Google) How would you…
      vineet on HN
    • Also quite similar to freebase: http://www.freebase.com/
      c0n5pir4cy on HN
  • How will context be handled for ambiguous entities?

    From 2 comments
    • This is stupid. I hate to say it, but by taking all of the complexity out of Freebase, they forgot the problem Freebase was trying to solve: Semantic integration Right on the…
      JPKab on HN
    • What you're talking about is the larger problem of "context". Thankfully, I already wrote the code and the documentation to attach statements to contexts, solving this problem in…
      christophe971 on HN

Alternatives named

  • Freebase

    From 2 comments
    • Former Freebase, current Google engineer here: First of all, let me say that I'm glad more people are thinking/working in the space of triples. Even unstructured ones like this.…
      barakm on HN
    • Also quite similar to freebase: http://www.freebase.com/
      c0n5pir4cy on HN
  • Wikidata

    From 1 comment
    • One nice property of the Wikidata database is that it is a "secondary database. Wikidata will record not just statements, but their sources, thus reflecting the diversity of…
      troymc on HN
  • Cyc / OpenCyc

    From 1 comment
    • Sounds like a much simplified version of Douglas Lenat's Cyc project [1], which has been going since the mid eighties and is attempting to build a structured…
      andyjohnson0 on HN
  • NELL

    From 1 comment

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