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covert remote access device

SHOW HN2013

139points
32comments
#151of 1,739 in 2013
Top 9%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

1 positive, 13 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 6 critical, out of 20 comments about the project. Thread score -0.22.

Idea: 1 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Cool project and a fun build.

    From 2 comments
    • Cool project, I've thought about doing something similar and bought a gumstix for roughly this reason before the Pis were out (although power is harder to figure out on Gumstix).…
      brokentone on HN
    • These things are fun, and certainly not new. You can buy devkits that already look quite unobtrusive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug The one in this article looks like a…
      mrmekon on HN

Objections

  • Reinvents existing penetration-testing drop-box tools such as pwnpi and Power Pwn.

    From 2 comments
    • The use of physical drop boxes placed behind a firewall is nothing new. There is in fact a specific Linux distro for the Rasberry Pi targeted at this use case (see…
      decauth on HN
    • http://pwnieexpress.com/products/power-pwn
      mey on HN
  • Exposed SSH access to the device is a security risk; use a limited account.

    From 3 comments
    • Someone who finds the brick can ssh into his server... that seems weird.
      thu on HN
    • You should be able to limit the account that it's ssh-ing into so that it's just used for the tunnel. Or if you're really paranoid, limit the entire thing to a dedicated virtual…
      omh on HN
    • A few suggestions: SCP'ing the public key directly to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys could overwrite the file if it already exists. It's better to use 'ssh-copy-id', which takes care of…
      aseidl on HN
  • The power adapter placed on the board is a fire and short-circuit hazard.

    From 2 comments
    • These things are fun, and certainly not new. You can buy devkits that already look quite unobtrusive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SheevaPlug The one in this article looks like a…
      mrmekon on HN
    • Is the power adapter board sitting on top of the Pi? They should be separated by some panel to avoid shortcircuits and/or feeding mains power into it. It looks like there's…
      lgeek on HN

Requests

  • Use a Tor or I2P hidden service instead of a plain SSH tunnel.

    From 2 comments
    • A tor hidden service with ssh is a great way to set up a reverse tunnel: https://www.torproject.org/docs/hidden-services.html.en
      dfc on HN
    • Setting I2P up on the RPi then setting ssh up to listen on a I2P hidden service on the RPi would be better than the method shown. That way if the device is discovered it would be…
      benkillin on HN
  • Use autossh with a restart daemon for reliable tunnels.

    From 2 comments
    • A few suggestions: SCP'ing the public key directly to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys could overwrite the file if it already exists. It's better to use 'ssh-copy-id', which takes care of…
      aseidl on HN
    • Actually you can write a nice little script that treats autossh like a daemon and restarts it if it crashes. I did something like that on Arch linux. Also it's probably a good…
      Fuxy on HN

Questions

  • Why not use a smaller, cheaper router-based device?

    From 1 comment
    • For the purpose of physical drop boxes, there are much better tools than a Pi. For example this one http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr703n is cheaper (< $20), smaller,…
      riobard on HN

Alternatives named

  • pwnpi and Pwnie Express Power Pwn

    From 2 comments
    • The use of physical drop boxes placed behind a firewall is nothing new. There is in fact a specific Linux distro for the Rasberry Pi targeted at this use case (see…
      decauth on HN
    • http://pwnieexpress.com/products/power-pwn
      mey on HN
  • Pagekite

    From 1 comment
  • WiFi Pineapple

    From 1 comment
    • Here's a similar project based on another similar project that's been around for quite some time: http://penturalabs.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/blue-for-the-pineapple/ Original…
      bluetooth on HN

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