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CryptoSeal

Responding to NSA spying with a simple consumer VPN service

news.ycombinator.com

#vpn#privacy#nsa surveillance#openvpn#mobile vpn

65points
74comments
#392of 1,739 in 2013
Top 23%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

7 positive, 22 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 9 critical, out of 38 comments about the project. Thread score -0.06.

Privacy: 1 for, 4 againstPerformance: 1 for, 2 againstPricing: 1 for, 2 againstExecution: 1 for, 0 againstIdea: 1 for, 0 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Good timing given NSA revelations.

    From 1 comment
    • One thing the NSA fiasco has done is made people aware of the security and privacy issues on the internet and it's a great time to launch a service like this. Hopefully we will…
      prayag on HN
  • Servers outside the US appeal to users.

    From 1 comment
    • One thing the NSA fiasco has done is made people aware of the security and privacy issues on the internet and it's a great time to launch a service like this. Hopefully we will…
      prayag on HN
  • Mobile focus makes setup accessible to non-experts.

    From 1 comment

Objections

  • Based in the US, so trust in jurisdiction is questioned.

    From 1 comment
    • I intend absolutely no offense here. I love seeing HN projects posted here. But... One of the major issues that has been raised recently is, essentially, trust. Especially in the…
      thaumaturgy on HN
  • PPTP and L2TP are weak protocols.

    From 1 comment
    • These "issues" are critical in thwarting PRISM. More security snake oil.
      lifeguard on HN
  • Bandwidth and performance concerns on routers.

    From 2 comments
    • The Biggest problem I have found with VPN providers is bandwidth. I just installed DD-WRT on my router to use OpenVPN client on the router, the bandwidth speed drops to a level…
      47 on HN
    • > I just installed DD-WRT on my router to use OpenVPN client on the router, the bandwidth speed drops to a level that makes the setup totally useless. A fair amount of that has…
      bifrost on HN
  • VPN does not stop monitoring of content at services like Facebook or Google.

    From 1 comment
    • I'm not sure how this is at all relevant to the NSA spying - the NSA are gathering details from content providers (like Facebook, Google, Skype), so if you use the VPN to access…
      richardwhiuk on HN

Requests

  • Clear logging and retention policy.

    From 2 comments
    • One of the items I'm going to be most interested in from your service (when the time comes for you guys to start working on it) will be the TOS and/or practices you put in place.…
      B0Z on HN
    • Do you do ANY kind of logging?
      smegel on HN
  • Anonymous payment options such as Bitcoin.

    From 1 comment
    • Payment is by Stripe, how long are records of the transaction kept by yourselves? Are you associating a card transaction to an IP address in any way that could result in you ever…
      buro9 on HN
  • Differentiation from existing VPN providers.

    From 1 comment
    • I like the idea of more VPN providers coming online. One thing that may be helpful is to differentiate yourselves from the other VPN providers. For example, I have a VPN…
      epoxyhockey on HN
  • Performance and latency test endpoints.

    From 1 comment
    • Where are the VPN servers located geographically? It might be wise to include where your servers are located - and perhaps even a test IP address that users can use for latency /…
      prg318 on HN

Questions

  • What data is logged and how long is it kept?

    From 2 comments
    • Do you do ANY kind of logging?
      smegel on HN
    • Payment is by Stripe, how long are records of the transaction kept by yourselves? Are you associating a card transaction to an IP address in any way that could result in you ever…
      buro9 on HN
  • Where are the servers located?

    From 1 comment
    • Where are the VPN servers located geographically? It might be wise to include where your servers are located - and perhaps even a test IP address that users can use for latency /…
      prg318 on HN
  • Would running a self-hosted VPN on a VPS be better?

    From 1 comment
    • I'm sure there are many legit VPN provider out of there, which really care about the user and provide some hardware/bandwidth, but most are oversold services (barely scam) with…
      Spittie on HN

Alternatives named

  • IVPN

    From 1 comment
    • Did you try IVPN? http://www.ivpn.net/ I've just purchased an Asus RT-N66U to run an OpenVPN client so that I can encrypt the traffic from all computers, and as I don't do…
      buro9 on HN
  • ViprVPN

    From 1 comment
    • One of the items I'm going to be most interested in from your service (when the time comes for you guys to start working on it) will be the TOS and/or practices you put in place.…
      B0Z on HN
  • GetCloak

    From 1 comment
    • Howdy, CryptoSeal guys. It was great grabbing a beer with you in SFO earlier this year and talking about the VPN space. GetCloak.com continues to go well. I didn't realize you…
      davepeck on HN
  • Self-hosted OpenVPN on a VPS

    From 1 comment
    • I'm sure there are many legit VPN provider out of there, which really care about the user and provide some hardware/bandwidth, but most are oversold services (barely scam) with…
      Spittie on HN

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