Streak Secure Gmail

Security and privacy

email encryption

SHOW HN2013

170points
98comments
#95of 1,739 in 2013
Top 6%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

6 positive, 12 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 24 critical, out of 43 comments about the project. Thread score -0.49.

Privacy: 2 for, 12 againstIdea: 4 for, 5 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 againstDesign: 0 for, 3 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Usability is a strong point compared with PGP-based tools

    From 2 comments
    • Actually we went down the gpg public/private key path first, and realized that was way worse in terms of usability. Even though with symmetric you have to enter the password, at…
      alooPotato on HN
    • My thanks to you and your team for having developed this. The cost of crypto is, at present, far too high for mainstream use - or so it seems. Undoubtedly, the challenges…
      smarterat on HN
  • Open source and an encryption-by-default approach are welcome

    From 2 comments
    • We built this extension to see if it was possible to prevent webmail providers from handing over your email data to other parties. We encrypt the email message on the local…
      alooPotato on HN
    • Number of recipients seems like a good idea for separating personal and business to me too. Personally, I only use PGP for emails with my partner, but we definitely send way in…
      Osmium on HN

Objections

  • Browser JavaScript cannot provide real security against code injection or Google itself

    From 2 comments
    • From the Stanford JS Crypto library's page: > (Unfortunately, this is not as great as in desktop applications because it is not feasible to completely protect against code…
      IgorPartola on HN
    • Yup, totally secure. Unless Google's secretly forced to add something along the lines of $(document).on("change", "input.streak__password", function () { $.post(...); });…
      drdaeman on HN
  • Symmetric passphrase security depends on password strength

    From 3 comments
    • We built this extension to see if it was possible to prevent webmail providers from handing over your email data to other parties. We encrypt the email message on the local…
      alooPotato on HN
    • How is key reuse is avoided? It's even harder for users to maintain (separate random) key for every message. All the classical OTP key issues are here. Aka different message,…
      Sami_Lehtinen on HN
    • Agreed - quality of a password is the key. We wanted to start with something that regular people would actually use. Its current;y not the most secure solution - but we were…
      alooPotato on HN
  • Chrome-only and no attachment or search support

    From 2 comments
    • NB: This is Chrome-only.
      pcwalton on HN
    • how would you do attachments and search? Big stopper for me for using something like this.
      igmor on HN

Requests

  • Support for attachments and search

    From 1 comment
    • how would you do attachments and search? Big stopper for me for using something like this.
      igmor on HN
  • Cross-platform support

    From 1 comment
    • It's too bad that firepgp couldn't keep up with the gmail api changes and eventually was aborted. The few times I used it felt pretty good. This chrome-only alpha software…
      drmr on HN
  • Public key option or key exchange approach

    From 2 comments
    • My thanks to you and your team for having developed this. The cost of crypto is, at present, far too high for mainstream use - or so it seems. Undoubtedly, the challenges…
      smarterat on HN
    • Browsers just need to actually get on the security bandwagon and build support for public key crypotagraphy into an api. Then you could generate keys, export them to back them up…
      dbpatterson on HN

Questions

  • Does Gmail still upload drafts or data while typing

    From 1 comment
    • Just curious, but how can we be sure that GMail doesn't continue to do voodoo like uploading a copy of draft without complete transparency? i.e. will this also disable any…
      lmgftp on HN
  • Is the encryption export-legal and how strong is AES-256

    From 1 comment
    • What is the legality of this? I'm concerned that in general cryptography web products are potentially illegal…
      sldjfwsiojf on HN

Alternatives named

  • Mailvelope (OpenPGP in Gmail)

    From 1 comment
    • Mailvelope http://www.mailvelope.com/ uses OpenPGP and is nicely integrated with gmail.
      jmvidal on HN
  • FireGPG

    From 1 comment
    • It's too bad that firepgp couldn't keep up with the gmail api changes and eventually was aborted. The few times I used it felt pretty good. This chrome-only alpha software…
      drmr on HN
  • Parley

    From 1 comment
    • We're trying an approach with http://parley.co that involves storing a symmetrically encrypted OpenPGP keyring on the server for our users. That, combined with a UI that…
      napoleond on HN
  • Hushmail

    From 1 comment
    • >> storing a symmetrically encrypted OpenPGP keyring on the server > now THAT is the way to do it! Um, no. No, it absolutely is not. See also: Hushmail.
      jlgaddis on HN

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