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34points
18comments
#719of 1,739 in 2013
Top 42%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

1 positive, 4 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 3 critical, out of 9 comments about the project. Thread score -0.21.

Execution: 1 for, 1 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Works with any text-to-result loop, not just LaTeX

    From 1 comment
    • I didn't know about whizzytex, it's very interesting. The ability to modify placement with the mouse looks quite neat. I'll look into it, thanks. To add on pcmonk's answer, this…
      linschn on HN
  • Integrates with normal Unix tools

    From 2 comments
    • I like this a lot. One thing I noticed is that on the video, the first change is on the background from green to red. As a deuteranomalous (color-blind) person, I really couldn't…
      pcmonk on HN
    • You're right -- this isn't, and won't ever be (as long as it stays with this technology) up to Bret's standards. However, Bret's stuff doesn't exist, and there's a reason for…
      pcmonk on HN

Objections

  • Not what Bret Victor describes; no in-place editing of output

    From 2 comments
    • I don’t want to sound overly negative, but latexmk already supports this workflow with its -pvc option (i.e. watching files for modifications and updating the preview). The…
      secure on HN
    • Okay, let’s assume that you are right, and we don’t need the same interface. I still maintain that the feedback loop demonstrated in Bret Victor’s videos is _significantly_…
      secure on HN
  • Feedback loop too slow compared to Victor's demos

    From 1 comment
    • Okay, let’s assume that you are right, and we don’t need the same interface. I still maintain that the feedback loop demonstrated in Bret Victor’s videos is _significantly_…
      secure on HN
  • FUSE/ramdisk unnecessary; inotify or FSEvents would do

    From 2 comments
    • I don't get the point of using FUSE/ramdisk. Why not just use FSEvents/inotify to listen for updates? See for example https://github.com/ggreer/fsevents-tools
      vgrichina on HN
    • My thoughts exactly
      commented on HN
  • Color change hard to see for color-blind users

    From 1 comment
    • I like this a lot. One thing I noticed is that on the video, the first change is on the background from green to red. As a deuteranomalous (color-blind) person, I really couldn't…
      pcmonk on HN

Requests

  • Use colorblind-safe colors or brightness in the demo

    From 2 comments
    • Changing brightness is good. Also, tritanomaly (or tritanopia) is very rare (about 0.01% for either males or females vs 6% males and 0.4% females for dueteronomaly), so changing…
      pcmonk on HN
    • http://colorbrewer2.org/js/ Check "diverging" and "colorblind safe"
      Sprint on HN

Questions

  • Why use FUSE/ramdisk instead of FSEvents/inotify

    From 1 comment
    • I don't get the point of using FUSE/ramdisk. Why not just use FSEvents/inotify to listen for updates? See for example https://github.com/ggreer/fsevents-tools
      vgrichina on HN

Alternatives named

  • latexmk -pvc

    From 1 comment
    • I don’t want to sound overly negative, but latexmk already supports this workflow with its -pvc option (i.e. watching files for modifications and updating the preview). The…
      secure on HN
  • whizzytex

    From 1 comment
    • I don’t want to sound overly negative, but latexmk already supports this workflow with its -pvc option (i.e. watching files for modifications and updating the preview). The…
      secure on HN
  • Gummi

    From 1 comment
    • The LaTeX demo reminds me of Gummi[0]. Gummi has a similar two-paned interface with LaTeX on the left and the preview/build log on the right. This project seems a little too…
      techwizrd on HN
  • Gliimpse

    From 1 comment
    • The latex mode somehow reminds me of Gliimpse http://www.aviz.fr/gliimpse/, although it doesn't have exactly the same purpose.
      daureg on HN

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