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I mapped US medical prices. Save thousands by driving a few miles

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#medical prices#hospital costs#medicare charges#price map

488points
222comments
#12of 1,739 in 2013
Top 1%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

21 positive, 23 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 23 critical, out of 74 comments about the project. Thread score -0.01.

Idea: 10 for, 11 againstExecution: 1 for, 11 againstDesign: 3 for, 0 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Clear, simple, helpful UI.

    From 2 comments
    • This is fantastic, clear, concise, and helpful, with a simple UI.
      hardwaresofton on HN
    • This has enormous impact by bringing transparency to medical procedure pricing. One could quite literally save $10-50K by opting to do a procedure just a few miles away. Nice…
      dshankar on HN
  • Important problem for transparency in medical pricing.

    From 1 comment
    • This has enormous impact by bringing transparency to medical procedure pricing. One could quite literally save $10-50K by opting to do a procedure just a few miles away. Nice…
      dshankar on HN

Objections

  • Medicare rates are not what patients pay; commercial and insurer prices differ.

    From 3 comments
    • Assuming this data is from the Medicare (insurance program for those >65) dataset released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services earlier this year…
      jeanlucneptune on HN
    • What's the consumer use for this? Is it for people without insurance? From what I understand this is the rate that Medicare has negotiated from these providers. But I assume this…
      dougmccune on HN
    • These are called cost and quality or transparency tools in the industry. Many insurance companies have tools that can do this exact thing for their members AND apply it to your…
      MJR on HN
  • Cheaper does not mean better; outcomes and quality data are missing.

    From 4 comments
    • This is a great start, however a key thing that is missing (at no fault of the authors) is patient outcomes. Just because a service is cheaper does not mean you should shop by…
      rschmitty on HN
    • Be careful comparing costs alone. Like everything else, sometimes more expensive things are better in quality. This might manifest in a different diagnosis, a longer recovery…
      anothernaysayer on HN
    • Interesting data, but good to note that cheap does not equate with better in the medical field typically.
      ocfx on HN
    • However, I think hand in hand with this you need to map outcomes data, especially for invasive procedures. Often, the reason to go to a "Big Hospital" say UCSF instead of Podunk…
      caycep on HN
  • Procedure terminology and charge data are hard for patients to interpret.

    From 2 comments
    • Assuming this data is from the Medicare (insurance program for those >65) dataset released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services earlier this year…
      jeanlucneptune on HN
    • I picked one (Heart Failure with Shock with MCC) at random http://www.cms.gov/icd10manual/fullcode_cms/P0136.html the link shows all the diagnoses that fall in that category of…
      bartcatz on HN
  • Site had bugs with the procedure selector and a JS error.

    From 3 comments
    • I don't know if I'm just completely retarded or hitting a bug. How do I use the "Select a Procedure..." box? Typing into it does nothing. If I click on the box (or the down…
      jonmrodriguez on HN
    • You have a JS error that breaks the whole site. Here it is: ``` var query = new Parse.Query(Procedure); query.limit(1000); query.ascending)( <---- error query.find({ ```
      ye on HN
    • Great idea, but why is this thing on front page if its not working ? I see nothing to select in "Select Procedure" menu.
      31reasons on HN

Requests

  • Add outcomes and quality data.

    From 2 comments
    • However, I think hand in hand with this you need to map outcomes data, especially for invasive procedures. Often, the reason to go to a "Big Hospital" say UCSF instead of Podunk…
      caycep on HN
    • This is a great start, however a key thing that is missing (at no fault of the authors) is patient outcomes. Just because a service is cheaper does not mean you should shop by…
      rschmitty on HN
  • Sort procedures and add search.

    From 1 comment
    • A couple of points: There are far fewer procedures / pathologies here than are out there. At least sort the procedures / pathologies lexicographically. It would be even better if…
      nickbauman on HN
  • Add a cheapest-option button and clearer map legend.

    From 2 comments
    • Would it be useful to have a 'show me the cheapest' button? The range in cost hints at the massive variance. The US is crazy. How does a procedure costing 4k in one place cost…
      awjr on HN
    • What do the numbers and colors of the hospital symbols mean? They do not seem to be correlated with price of procedure.
      dice on HN

Questions

  • Where does the data come from and is it public?

    From 1 comment
    • This has enormous impact by bringing transparency to medical procedure pricing. One could quite literally save $10-50K by opting to do a procedure just a few miles away. Nice…
      dshankar on HN
  • What is the consumer use case for uninsured or insured patients?

    From 1 comment
    • What's the consumer use for this? Is it for people without insurance? From what I understand this is the rate that Medicare has negotiated from these providers. But I assume this…
      dougmccune on HN

Alternatives named

  • BetterDoctor pricemaps

    From 2 comments
    • We did a similar thing at BetterDoctor a few weeks ago: http://pricemaps.betterdoctor.com/
      rexec on HN
    • Saw this couple of weeks ago http://pricemaps.betterdoctor.com/
      enra on HN
  • Castlight Health

    From 1 comment
    • Incredibly useful if you're on medicare (what the price data is based on). For the majority of us _not_ on medicare, castlighthealth.com is solving this. It's B2B for now, i.e.…
      benmathes on HN
  • Insurer cost and quality tools

    From 1 comment
    • These are called cost and quality or transparency tools in the industry. Many insurance companies have tools that can do this exact thing for their members AND apply it to your…
      MJR on HN
  • Health Cost Negotiator

    From 1 comment
    • I made a similar app at http://healthcostnegotiator.com/ I took the approach of targeting under/un-insured patients with the goal of assisting them in negotiating their health…
      hydrologie on HN
  • Dartmouth Atlas

    From 1 comment
    • Have you looked at the Dartmouth Atlas? They've been mapping healthcare costs for the last decade. Might have some good data and inspiration for you.
      davycro on HN

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