Surfer

Web and SaaS

image sharing platform

SHOW HN2014

80points
78comments
#369of 2,272 in 2014
Top 17%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

6 positive, 22 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 18 critical, out of 48 comments about the project. Thread score -0.23.

Idea: 3 for, 11 againstDesign: 1 for, 3 againstPerformance: 1 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

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positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting concept of sharing ad revenue with users

    From 3 comments
    • It's a really interesting concept, if it takes off it would be nice to see how it affects the types of content people are posting (whether having the incentive of payment pushes…
      Robadob on HN
    • I think you have a really good idea. I also agree that a lot of users would use an image sharing site if they know potentially they could make some money instead of none. There…
      ivanbrussik on HN
    • Awesome concept. It was about time someone made a system like this. As an avid redditor with quite a bit of useless reddit-karma, I'll give your site a try. If you were selling…
      atko on HN
  • Site design looks clean

    From 1 comment
    • Cool idea! I really like the site design. Coincidentally enough, the color scheme and flat design style looks almost exactly like something I'm working on haha
      Xcelerate on HN

Objections

  • Slow image loading compared to Imgur

    From 2 comments
    • A good thing about imgur is that images load very quickly. I am not getting the same experience from your website. http://imgur.com/99kuTjE took 3000ms to load,…
      ttsda on HN
    • Concept is interesting. I'm a photographer... is this thing worth it? How many views do I need to generate 1 US Dollar? BUT you site is too slow. I will not predict a bright…
      therealmarv on HN
  • Copyright and DMCA liability for paid user uploads

    From 4 comments
    • What's your plan to handle instances where users generate ad revenue from images they don't own?
      Splendor on HN
    • basically, you're soon going run into the same problem as Youtube, i.e. having to create your own ContentID system. This should be feasible through something like tineye.com, but…
      dalek2point3 on HN
    • DMCA and Ad compliance are core to the business model. They cannot be ignored by pointing your users to this link.
      halayli on HN
    • Manual verification like that could very well make you lose your safe harbor protections under the DMCA and Section 230.
      dublinben on HN
  • AdSense may ban the site over a single inappropriate image

    From 2 comments
    • adsense or any ad server can block your account/domain because of a single inappropriate picture. How will you deal with that?
      halayli on HN
    • Any idea why they got banned from adsense?
      Blahah on HN
  • Reddit prefers direct links that earn nothing

    From 2 comments
    • Not only that but they claim to be going after the Reddit/Imgur crowd but Reddit prefers and uses direct links to images; they rarely link to the full HTML page which is where…
      nacs on HN
    • This seems like a really cool idea! I'm not sure how well this would go over on reddit since they prefer direct-link images usually, but I love the idea. Good luck, I hope it…
      bratsche on HN

Requests

  • State the revenue cut clearly during sign-up

    From 2 comments
    • You could state that somewhere. I was assuming you take a cut and purposefully didn't mention how big it is.
      MzHN on HN
    • This is something Surfer is going to have to state clearly during the sign-up process to avoid being villified by the Reddit and Imgur crowd.
      frakkingcylons on HN
  • Allow uploads without requiring signup

    From 2 comments
    • You get an internal server error if you submit the signup form on the front page without filling any fields. You should probably let people just upload their pictures without…
      Jhsto on HN
    • Why do you require registering to upload? You want it to be as quick to get started with as other services and on top of that you get to collect the ad revenue until they decide…
      swinglock on HN
  • Support in Reddit Enhancement Suite

    From 1 comment
    • Support for Surfer on Reddit Enhancement Suite will be crucial for this to do well on Reddit. Gfycat did this and it has paid off for them.
      frakkingcylons on HN
  • Fix faster image resizing and EXIF rotation handling

    From 2 comments
    • Seems nice, but it seems to ignore the exif rotation/orientation data... is that something that should be handled when the image is uploaded?
      scottw on HN
    • Yeah, the first time it loads at a certain size it makes a resized copy so that's probably the lag you're seeing. I'll update so it does the resizing on image upload and see how…
      rgbrgb on HN

Questions

  • How is ad revenue paid out legally and what transfer service is used

    From 2 comments
    • This seems like a really cool idea! I'm not sure how well this would go over on reddit since they prefer direct-link images usually, but I love the idea. Good luck, I hope it…
      bratsche on HN
    • How does the payout of ad revenue work legally? Normally you can't just write checks to people without either employing them or requiring them to have a company.
      Kiro on HN
  • How the site makes money and what cut it takes

    From 1 comment

Alternatives named

  • Imgur

    From 2 comments
    • Good initiative but it lacks severely. First of all you will face all sorts of intellectual property problems. Then, you will have to deal with adoption. Imgur users are often…
      pearjuice on HN
    • Hm. Not sure I completely understand what's going on here. Is this supposed to be better than imgur? I'm always a bit leery of something that immediately wants my credentials…
      state on HN
  • MediaCrush

    From 1 comment
    • If you want to be in control of your own images, videos, audio, whatever: set up your own instance of MediaCrush. It takes less than 10 minutes and you have complete control. You…
      Sir_Cmpwn on HN
  • MediaGoblin

    From 1 comment
    • If you have slightly different needs, MediaGoblin is also a good choice. http://mediagoblin.org/
      dublinben on HN
  • Tumblr

    From 1 comment
    • I see what you did there. At least Tumblr gives credit to the actual artist. http://redd.it/20fb5v…
      julianwachholz on HN

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