Cartlassi
Web and SaaS
e-commerce bargaining
SHOW HN2014
36points
50comments
#867of 2,272 in 2014
Top 39%of 2014 by points
How HN took it
RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical
0 positive, 3 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 33 critical, out of 38 comments about the project. Thread score -0.78.
Idea: 0 for, 15 againstExecution: 0 for, 12 againstDesign: 0 for, 6 against
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What HN said
What people liked
Fresh, interesting idea
From 2 comments
Nicely looking site, and fresh idea, though... The idea does not make any sense in my head. There is actually some research happening in negotiating AI, but they all focus around…
alandarev on HNGreat idea, dissapointing proof of concept. There are many things to do to work out a bargaining algorithm. What is the price of a similar item in other online stores? What does…
kubiiii on HN
Nice-looking site
From 1 comment
Nicely looking site, and fresh idea, though... The idea does not make any sense in my head. There is actually some research happening in negotiating AI, but they all focus around…
alandarev on HN
Objections
Shoppers find the lowest price quickly, so the price floor is easy to reach
From 4 comments
Another commenter posted some JavaScript that runs to find the price floor. Wouldn't a system like this be subject to virtually everyone finding the lowest price almost…
iambateman on HNThis is a great idea but I don't think it could work. My immediate tactic was to put in 10 dollars each time until I saw the price dropping barely any lower. It wouldn't take a…
jblok on HNThe site assumes bargaining is anything but a social act. If you are going to bargain with a computer you will always enter 0 as the price you are willing to pay and see where…
NikhilVerma on HNdumb...pointless...the obvious strategy is just offer $1 until you reach the price floor.
menriquez on HN
Lacks the human interaction and emotion of real haggling
From 3 comments
Another commenter posted some JavaScript that runs to find the price floor. Wouldn't a system like this be subject to virtually everyone finding the lowest price almost…
iambateman on HNI thoroughly enjoyed my time bargaining when I visited Ecuador. I think I would have loved it even more if I spoke Spanish :). However I have a few qualms with this. 1. Most…
pappyo on HNThe site assumes bargaining is anything but a social act. If you are going to bargain with a computer you will always enter 0 as the price you are willing to pay and see where…
NikhilVerma on HN
Buggy input handling, such as negative and NaN prices
From 3 comments
I bargained a $1,800 sofa down to $87. My first offer was -$5,000. Maybe your algorithm needs to work on negative numbers.
Nemant on HNLooks like it doesn't like our way of writing numbers. 0,01 - "You got it for $NaN"
dewey on HNMinor bug, if i type in a number and click 'add to cart' it says I won it for that number.
ashdav on HN
Shoppers may abandon carts or be put off buying
From 2 comments
A clever idea on paper, but in practice I can't help but think users would wonder whether or not they got the lowest possible price, and consequently would abandon their shopping…
onion2k on HNI would never buy anything from an online stored that used this.
samnardoni on HN
Requests
Randomize the price floor per shopper
From 2 comments
Interesting idea, but as others have noted, once it's known the game is rigged, it's just a matter of time before I find the price floor. Perhaps a random price floor for each…
JadoJodo on HNThis is a great idea but I don't think it could work. My immediate tactic was to put in 10 dollars each time until I saw the price dropping barely any lower. It wouldn't take a…
jblok on HN
Stop the algorithm from lowering offers or accepting lower bids
From 1 comment
Why does it let you lower your offer? e.g. 1st offer is $300, and my 2nd offer is $200. Yet at each stage, the website lowers its price. The algorithm shouldn't be dropping the…
joosters on HN
Make the game more realistic with other shoppers or real stakes
From 1 comment
If it was real-time and included other shoppers and the threat of not accepting meant the threat of loss... then maybe you have something. Otherwise the artificiality of…
hoopism on HN
Questions
How does it stop users from gaming it with incognito windows or new accounts?
From 1 comment
An essential part of the real life bargaining experience is that you're stuck with the attempts you make and, short of finding a new vendor, you can't try again with a clean…
jamesk_au on HN
Would merchants or large retailers like Etsy use it?
From 1 comment
I thoroughly enjoyed my time bargaining when I visited Ecuador. I think I would have loved it even more if I spoke Spanish :). However I have a few qualms with this. 1. Most…
pappyo on HN
Alternatives named
eBay best offer with a response window
From 1 comment
I think the risk is that: 1. users will know the price is not correct, and even when they 'haggle' it down, they will feel that they are in some way being taken for a ride. 2.…
ljf on HN
Amazon fixed pricing
From 1 comment
Except for step three, I think you just described Amazon.com. Amazon - I know they're fscking me, but they make it seem so reasonable, dammit.
drivingmenuts on HN
impassebreaker.com negotiation site
From 1 comment
Interesting. A couple of observations, from grappling with some of the same issues for our negotiation site. Definitely agree that you wouldn't want to share the seller's bottom…
impassebreaker on HN