NomadList

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SHOW HN2014

639points
298comments
#8of 2,272 in 2014
Top 1%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

35 positive, 61 neutral or asking, 9 mixed, 51 critical, out of 156 comments about the project. Thread score -0.12.

Idea: 24 for, 7 againstPricing: 1 for, 22 againstDesign: 2 for, 9 againstExecution: 0 for, 7 againstPerformance: 1 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good idea for discovering places to work remotely

    From 3 comments
    • Hi HN! I made this. Here's some info on the data before everyone goes berzerk :) Firstly, it's crowdsourced from this spreadsheet http://nomadlist.io/edit/ so it might not be…
      pieterhg on HN
    • I like the concept for getting some new ideas, but it needs significantly more information to be useful downstream. Having been nomading around for the past year, there are…
      noeltock on HN
    • Very cool. To broaden the appeal I would consider expanding to include things like recreational opportunities. I spent some time road tripping around the us rock climbing and…
      micro_cam on HN

Objections

  • Cost figures seem inaccurate for several cities

    From 4 comments
    • I'm curious where the data comes from? I see that it's a spreadsheet but how is it verified? For example, I don't know what the average price of a co-working space is in Tokyo…
      greggman on HN
    • Ok. The idea is great, but as other have also said, the figures seem way off. Just two examples: Basel being cheaper than Berlin? I have a hard time believing that. But: Hong…
      angerman on HN
    • Those european rent prices seem like a complete fantasy in some cases. Sure you get all kinds of outliers in every city but rents in Paris, Dublin and Berlin are certainly not…
      fauigerzigerk on HN
    • Bucharest ~ $1800 is exaggerated, honestly, if you live alone $500 are more than enough.
      tet on HN
  • Missing visa and legal status information

    From 3 comments
    • You need to include visa situation, because Bangkok is 3rd, but unless you're planning to start a Thailand-based business via the BOI, you're working there illegally if you don't…
      peteretep on HN
    • Good idea! But you have to add a visa information for each country. For example, I like Hong Kong, but you can't stay there more than 2 weeks (if you want stay more, you have to…
      hal9000xp on HN
    • You should also add "Visa" field. E.g. any american can live in Europe up to 3 months, but in Thailand it's just 1 m. I lived in Bangkok for about a year, thought I love that…
      homakov on HN
  • Missing crime, healthcare and safety factors

    From 3 comments
    • You need way more data points. I would add crime statistics to this for example or probability of getting arrested and beaten by the local police, and the average cost of bribing…
      optymizer on HN
    • Great idea, but I can't find any information about healthcare? It might be great to live in Thailand where you have to spent just a little for living but what happens if we…
      hazelnut on HN
    • I would think crime rate should factor into this as well. It's at least as important as weather.
      thom_nic on HN
  • Data is crowdsourced and subjective

    From 2 comments
    • Hi HN! I made this. Here's some info on the data before everyone goes berzerk :) Firstly, it's crowdsourced from this spreadsheet http://nomadlist.io/edit/ so it might not be…
      pieterhg on HN
    • It's based on short-term staying in the center. It's very subjective data by its nature. YMMV
      pieterhg on HN

Requests

  • Add visa information per country

    From 3 comments
    • You need to include visa situation, because Bangkok is 3rd, but unless you're planning to start a Thailand-based business via the BOI, you're working there illegally if you don't…
      peteretep on HN
    • Good idea! But you have to add a visa information for each country. For example, I like Hong Kong, but you can't stay there more than 2 weeks (if you want stay more, you have to…
      hal9000xp on HN
    • You should also add "Visa" field. E.g. any american can live in Europe up to 3 months, but in Thailand it's just 1 m. I lived in Bangkok for about a year, thought I love that…
      homakov on HN
  • Add crime and safety data

    From 2 comments
    • You need way more data points. I would add crime statistics to this for example or probability of getting arrested and beaten by the local police, and the average cost of bribing…
      optymizer on HN
    • I would think crime rate should factor into this as well. It's at least as important as weather.
      thom_nic on HN
  • Add healthcare information

    From 1 comment
    • Great idea, but I can't find any information about healthcare? It might be great to live in Thailand where you have to spent just a little for living but what happens if we…
      hazelnut on HN
  • Show bimodal or broke-artist price distributions

    From 1 comment
    • Great concept. One feature request: Better calculations for cities with Bi-modal price distributions. Certain cities have a extremely bi-modal distributions of pricing. I.e. they…
      compare on HN

Questions

  • Where does the data come from and how is it verified?

    From 2 comments
    • I'm curious where the data comes from? I see that it's a spreadsheet but how is it verified? For example, I don't know what the average price of a co-working space is in Tokyo…
      greggman on HN
    • Great work. How can people act on the info on specific cities ? There should be a way to balance wrong/right/... for variables that are subjective (weather, friendliness to…
      lolizbak on HN
  • How is NomadCost calculated?

    From 1 comment
    • Why would being in the center of the city be important? I would think average anywhere in the city would be more reasonable. I would also like to see the costs of a 2 bedroom…
      dm2 on HN

Alternatives named

  • Numbeo

    From 2 comments
    • Those european rent prices seem like a complete fantasy in some cases. Sure you get all kinds of outliers in every city but rents in Paris, Dublin and Berlin are certainly not…
      fauigerzigerk on HN
    • Ho Chi Minh is almost twice as expensive as Hanoi? I didn't make it to Hanoi, but everyone told me it was the more expensive of the two. HCM is really cheap everywhere you go if…
      imjustsaying on HN
  • Expatistan-style cost indexes such as the Eardex Index

    From 1 comment
    • I don't see this as very useful. People are different, so are countries. Internet is very relative. Can be extremely slow and extremely fast in one city. Beijing 20 MBPS? Really?…
      tiatia on HN

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