Location Aware Names

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location encoding

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95points
103comments
#287of 2,272 in 2014
Top 13%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

4 positive, 16 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 42 critical, out of 64 comments about the project. Thread score -0.52.

Idea: 4 for, 26 againstDesign: 0 for, 7 againstExecution: 0 for, 6 againstDocs: 0 for, 3 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Clever concept; pronounceable location names could complement coordinates.

    From 3 comments
    • This seems like a good suggestion for a global system of Postcodes (Zipcodes). As others have mentioned, lots of other human readable info is stored in a traditional address, so…
      tehwalrus on HN
    • The slides are really cool – there's a lot of depth. I was really impressed that vectors could be encapsulated in names, removing the need for street information to be stored.…
      rusew on HN
    • This is a rather wonderful concept. English names are good but often when names in another language are converted into English and typed into Google maps they can be spelled many…
      superasn on HN

Objections

  • Generated names are hard to pronounce, spell and remember, and sound unnatural.

    From 3 comments
    • I don't think I'm on board with this. Here are two names from the same street: NOZAXO-JEJEZU, NUZAXOJ-JAJEZUN and here's one from another location in the city PABAXO-GAKEZU.…
      wuliwong on HN
    • Those aren't names, those are random jumbles of letters that are somewhat pronounceable. They might be also hard to localise for places that don't use English words. A name is a…
      anon4 on HN
    • The example phonetic address they use for a bunch of examples is "RERI-NUCA". Not very memorable. And what happens if you misspell it? The example of spelling "Pine Hill" as…
      egypturnash on HN
  • Does not replace rich info in addresses and loses cultural meaning of place names.

    From 2 comments
    • Place names have huge emotional content associated with them. Place names are changed for example to honor a person (Washinton, DC) or an important concept (Union City, CA).…
      not_that_noob on HN
    • Its a nice little thought experiment, but current place names have been optimized for human memory. Objects, names, events are all synaptically linked to enable the average human…
      MrDosu on HN
  • Names may not work across languages and phonetic variation causes ambiguity.

    From 2 comments
    • This system doesn't (currently) solve the problem it was created to solve, which is to create a system that can uniquely encode locations that also produces phonetically coherent…
      zheshishei on HN
    • A few comments: 0: How does the street algorithm work? 1: Not everywhere can effectively be described as a point with varying degrees of precision. Some places are long and thin.…
      frobozz on HN

Requests

  • Publish the algorithm and provide a library for integration.

    From 1 comment
    • What's the algorithm for mapping between locations and names? If I wanted to integrate this into my own code how would I do that -- is there a library? Coincidentally I published…
      plesner on HN
  • Add error checking for misspellings.

    From 1 comment
    • This is a rather wonderful concept. English names are good but often when names in another language are converted into English and typed into Google maps they can be spelled many…
      superasn on HN
  • Handle non-linear streets and multi-story buildings.

    From 2 comments
    • The slides are really cool – there's a lot of depth. I was really impressed that vectors could be encapsulated in names, removing the need for street information to be stored.…
      rusew on HN
    • You would still need another line for multi-story buildings. For example, I live on the 2nd floor of a building. On google maps, my flat is located above a restaurant. I guess I…
      daemonk on HN

Questions

  • How does this compare to mapcode and what3words?

    From 1 comment
    • How does this compare to http://www.mapcode.com/ and http://what3words.com/ ? And how does one achieve the sort of critical mass where the average person on the street knows…
      michaelt on HN
  • How does the street algorithm work?

    From 1 comment
    • A few comments: 0: How does the street algorithm work? 1: Not everywhere can effectively be described as a point with varying degrees of precision. Some places are long and thin.…
      frobozz on HN

Alternatives named

  • what3words and mapcode

    From 1 comment
    • How does this compare to http://www.mapcode.com/ and http://what3words.com/ ? And how does one achieve the sort of critical mass where the average person on the street knows…
      michaelt on HN
  • Latitude and longitude coordinates

    From 2 comments
    • Its a nice little thought experiment, but current place names have been optimized for human memory. Objects, names, events are all synaptically linked to enable the average human…
      MrDosu on HN
    • Seems like the easiest metaphor for this is "DNS for GPS" - i.e. in the same way DNS translates IP addresses into something human-readable, this translates lat-long into…
      corry on HN

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