Picnic.css

Dev tools

css framework

SHOW HN2014

247points
143comments
#62of 2,272 in 2014
Top 3%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

8 positive, 19 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 30 critical, out of 64 comments about the project. Thread score -0.34.

Design: 2 for, 16 againstIdea: 4 for, 6 againstExecution: 0 for, 7 againstPerformance: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fails gracefully without CSS, good for sites needing old browser support

    From 1 comment
    • I really like this, and am considering incorporating it in quite a few sites at this particular moment; so far so good implementation-wise. A huge plus that makes up for the lack…
      yellowapple on HN
  • Invasive approach means little markup changes needed

    From 1 comment
    • Nice work; I dig the not-having-to-do-anything approach. One thing -- hovering the demo button seems to affect elements underneath: http://goo.gl/9vD0D2
      mk4p on HN

Objections

  • Keyboard and screen reader accessibility poor

    From 1 comment
    • Lots of accessibility issues here. * Keyboard accessibility is completely busted (other comments have pointed this out). * Color contrast doesn't meet WCAG 2.0 AA (Bootstrap is…
      danielnixon on HN
  • Buttons, radio buttons and select styling buggy across browsers

    From 3 comments
    • The bit with the checkbox then 2 radios is a bit confusing (chrome/android/nexus 5) - at the start there's no check in the checkbox, I tap and it checks, I tap to uncheck and it…
      mcintyre1994 on HN
    • Very nice. Only one thing really bothered me: it's really hard to tell when the radio buttons are selected. I much prefer a full circle when selected
      ishener on HN
    • I'm not very okay with the checkbox and radio button styling. I don't think you actually would need to touch those at all...
      akx on HN
  • Colors too bold

    From 1 comment
  • Only tested in Firefox and Chrome, no IE8 or older support

    From 1 comment
    • Truth be told, I didn't know Min when creating Picnic, but I loved it when I saw it and will try it for sure. The main point of creating Picnic CSS was to make a more complete…
      franciscop on HN

Requests

  • Fix keyboard and ARIA accessibility

    From 1 comment
    • Lots of accessibility issues here. * Keyboard accessibility is completely busted (other comments have pointed this out). * Color contrast doesn't meet WCAG 2.0 AA (Bootstrap is…
      danielnixon on HN
  • Better radio button selected state

    From 1 comment
    • Very nice. Only one thing really bothered me: it's really hard to tell when the radio buttons are selected. I much prefer a full circle when selected
      ishener on HN
  • Hamburger menu colors and thresholds configurable

    From 1 comment
    • I really like this, and am considering incorporating it in quite a few sites at this particular moment; so far so good implementation-wise. A huge plus that makes up for the lack…
      yellowapple on HN
  • Sass or Less version

    From 1 comment
    • Also, what about a Less/Sass version so the HTML can be even cleaner by using just mixins in the Less/Sass to build the grid.
      eflowers on HN

Questions

  • Why use Picnic over Min?

    From 1 comment
    • First of all, I want to say that I like the vibrant colors, small size, and checkable buttons. Smaller (and JS-less) CSS frameworks is something that I've been crusading for for…
      owenversteeg on HN
  • How to change hamburger icon color?

    From 1 comment
    • I really like this, and am considering incorporating it in quite a few sites at this particular moment; so far so good implementation-wise. A huge plus that makes up for the lack…
      yellowapple on HN

Alternatives named

  • Bootstrap

    From 2 comments
    • In my opinion, the only great thing about Bootstrap is the grid system and form styling, the rest is just useless cruft. As a front-end developer, I see the value in Bootstrap…
      DigitalSea on HN
    • Semantic UI is also a great alternative. http://semantic-ui.com/ But again, in a professional setting I would prefer Bootstrap any day. It looks well done, it's easy to…
      wooptoo on HN
  • Pure CSS

    From 1 comment
    • Another lightweight Bootstrap alternative from Yahoo, 4.4KB: http://purecss.io
      ash on HN
  • Min

    From 1 comment
    • First of all, I want to say that I like the vibrant colors, small size, and checkable buttons. Smaller (and JS-less) CSS frameworks is something that I've been crusading for for…
      owenversteeg on HN
  • Semantic UI

    From 2 comments
    • I tried using Bootstrap and other CSS frameworks and (as mentioned in the comments) I felt like I was fighting the frameworks to get it to do what I wanted to do. The problem…
      computerjunkie on HN
    • Semantic UI is also a great alternative. http://semantic-ui.com/ But again, in a professional setting I would prefer Bootstrap any day. It looks well done, it's easy to…
      wooptoo on HN
  • Foundation

    From 1 comment
    • In my opinion, the only great thing about Bootstrap is the grid system and form styling, the rest is just useless cruft. As a front-end developer, I see the value in Bootstrap…
      DigitalSea on HN

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