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streamer earnings estimates

SHOW HN2015

92points
55comments
#281of 2,565 in 2015
Top 11%of 2015 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

0 positive, 10 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 10 critical, out of 20 comments about the project. Thread score -0.43.

Execution: 0 for, 7 againstDesign: 0 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

Objections

  • Ad revenue CPM of $2 per 1000 viewers is too high

    From 2 comments
    • Very interesting but this part concerns me: "Advertisement money was estimated by assuming that Twitch pays $2 per 1000 ad viewers every 30 seconds." That sounds like an…
      ianlevesque on HN
    • Yup, all streamers earn a lot more money from subscribers than ads. You can see that in their streams. They pay more attention to subs and most hardly ever run ads. The estimated…
      MysticFear on HN
  • Donations are not tracked, so estimates are far off

    From 3 comments
    • It's been mentioned before, but I feel a lot streamers (big or small) make more money off donations which isn't tracked at all. From time to time, a streamer will accidentally…
      SG- on HN
    • This cannot be emphasized enough. Without taking donations into account the predicted revenue is going to be so far off from the truth that it's pretty much useless.
      bramgg on HN
    • Is the fact that subscriptions are recurring accounted for? If you get 1k subscriptions a month at 2.50 each, on month 2 you make 5k, no 2500 (assuming no drop off) Also, I would…
      DanBlake on HN
  • Ad-block and ad-view assumptions are questionable

    From 2 comments
    • "We considered that only 24% of the viewers get to see the ads put up by the streamer according to a poll." I don't know, I feel like that number just seems way too high.
      heyheyhey on HN
    • I feel like there is a large room for error here: * how many people who are watching a stream have some sort of adblock enabled? * ads on twitch are not deterministic: some…
      chacham15 on HN
  • Subscriber counts appear wrong

    From 1 comment
    • The subscriber count seems way off -- and subs don't appear in chat so I'm unsure how you're scraping from there. I know that imaqtpie has had single days where he got 700+ subs…
      mmanfrin on HN
  • Monthly label missing and three decimals misleading

    From 3 comments
    • Are you the original author? If so, maybe change "Money Earned" to something that mentions monthly? There appears to be no mention of monthly anywhere in the area of your graphs,…
      markcerqueira on HN
    • Your use of 3 decimal places is confusing. $ 914.132 Looks like either nine hundred or nine hundred thousand.
      giarc on HN
    • the 3 decimal places made that number look very misleading...
      brickmort on HN

Requests

  • Track donations in the estimates

    From 2 comments
    • It's been mentioned before, but I feel a lot streamers (big or small) make more money off donations which isn't tracked at all. From time to time, a streamer will accidentally…
      SG- on HN
    • This cannot be emphasized enough. Without taking donations into account the predicted revenue is going to be so far off from the truth that it's pretty much useless.
      bramgg on HN
  • Show breakdown by game and for multi-game streamers

    From 1 comment
    • I would be interested in seeing how this varies across different games and also for some of the larger general twitch streamers who play multiple games. There is a lot of money…
      kmnc on HN

Questions

  • Whether recurring subscriptions are counted

    From 2 comments
    • Is the fact that subscriptions are recurring accounted for? If you get 1k subscriptions a month at 2.50 each, on month 2 you make 5k, no 2500 (assuming no drop off) Also, I would…
      DanBlake on HN
    • Hi Dan, nope the recurrence is not accounted, I didn't have any way of capturing it :)
      malahay on HN

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