Sonar

Web and SaaS

customer messaging platform

SHOW HN2015

84points
69comments
#316of 2,565 in 2015
Top 13%of 2015 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

7 positive, 13 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 14 critical, out of 34 comments about the project. Thread score -0.17.

Idea: 6 for, 6 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 againstDesign: 0 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Simple, low-friction SMS interaction with no logins

    From 2 comments
    • I believe a lot of the value is the simplicity of SMS. No logins, save the number in your phone and just text them like you would your friend with a request...done! You're right…
      MatthewB on HN
    • I actually do like this concept. I've always found it cumbersome that online support is a live session where either one of you can get disconnected at any time, or that you might…
      jimlei on HN
  • Useful for small businesses with personal client management

    From 1 comment
    • It's really frustrating to me when a Show HN gets thrashed this way. Every developer puts love into what they build, and most of the people here are developers that hopefully…
      primitivesuave on HN

Objections

  • Post seen as opportunistic advertising piggybacking on Magic's launch

    From 3 comments
    • I really don't like this opportunistic BS. These guys yesterday struggled with their launch and you took that opportunity to tell the world how to build a better clone? Cheap…
      pothibo on HN
    • It's nothing like you describe. They go to great length to say how they love Magic to turn around and tell the world how to do build a better clone. Did they write about the…
      pothibo on HN
    • The fact that you acknowledge the opportunistic part of my comment proves my point. Yes, when you love something so damn much, you don't go out there and tell people how to build…
      pothibo on HN
  • Long codes raise FCC and spam compliance concerns

    From 2 comments
    • Is this using a long code or a short code? The examples seem to show a long code, which is basically a phone number. The FCC is in the process of cracking down on companies that…
      comrade1 on HN
    • We use long codes. There's a distinct difference between marketing/spam and customer service/support. When a customer initiates the conversation via text, it is generally seen as…
      MatthewB on HN
  • SMS is poor for complex multi-step orders

    From 1 comment
    • Right. Ordering stuff over SMS isn't that great an idea. There's going to be a lot of back and forth - what size do you want, is it OK if your flight has a change of planes at…
      Animats on HN

Requests

  • Plugins for Salesforce, WHMCS, or Zendesk

    From 1 comment
    • To make this really interesting, have you thought about making plugins/addons for, say, SalesForce/WHMCS/ZenDesk? A plugin there could easily allow this thing to skyrocket.
      joshmn on HN

Questions

  • How payment info is captured and tied to phone numbers

    From 2 comments
    • Can you give some insight in how a business would capture unique payment info related to a phone # in Stripe? Is there a payment link sent to users?
      dinisp on HN
    • I don't know how they're doing payments exactly but if I had to guess they are recording a customer's credit card info to stripe and associate to a phone number somewhere. Since…
      MatthewB on HN
  • Why use Sonar instead of Twilio

    From 2 comments
    • why would someone choose sonar over twilio?
      klochner on HN
    • great question. the main reason to use Sonar over twilio is that you'd have to essentially build our platform to be able to offer service like Magic. You need to be able to…
      MatthewB on HN

Alternatives named

  • Twilio

    From 1 comment
  • Magic

    From 1 comment
    • I think this completely misses the point. The "magic" part of Magic isn't that it's over text -- that's just an implementation detail. Rather, the value is that it navigates all…
      RaphiePS on HN
  • Amazon and web ordering

    From 1 comment
    • Right. Ordering stuff over SMS isn't that great an idea. There's going to be a lot of back and forth - what size do you want, is it OK if your flight has a change of planes at…
      Animats on HN

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