Make School
Learning and science
coding school
SHOW HN2015
116points
98comments
#209of 2,565 in 2015
Top 9%of 2015 by points
How HN took it
RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical
6 positive, 9 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 21 critical, out of 40 comments about the project. Thread score -0.29.
Idea: 4 for, 14 againstPricing: 1 for, 4 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 against
The thread, comment by comment
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What HN said
What people liked
Funding model without upfront debt is appealing
From 2 comments
So what you're saying is we've found a way to fund education without debt to students or taxes, and the school has an incentive to get you internships so that you graduate with…
CzechsMix on HNI really like the innovative funding model, although intuitively it seems pretty high risk?
ripb on HN
Summer session students seemed driven and experienced
From 1 comment
Having met some of the students that went through Make School's summer session, I was very impressed. They seemed to be more widely-experienced and driven than your average…
ajaymehta on HN
Objections
25% salary share over two years is expensive, comparable to college debt
From 3 comments
I'm suspicious for two reasons: 1. I struggle to believe that a well-rounded CS and engineering education can be squeezed into two years. Describing this as "the future of…
matthewmacleod on HNSorry, but 25% of a persons salary for two years is a ridiculous amount of money. With a first year programmer making $75-$85k this cost will be similar to college debt. Will…
dollar on HNIn fact, if your starting salary is 80k, this is ten thousand dollars MORE THAN the average college debt! And no opportunities to branch out of software engineering. Your…
nmrm2 on HN
Two years too short for a real CS education
From 3 comments
> 2 month capstone project where you can build a startup or dive deep into computer science topics like artificial intelligence and machine learning. There is no deep in two…
pnathan on HNIt sounds more like a graduate program than a college education, a sort of Masters in IT entrepreneurship? As a college education, it shortchanges the students: * There is so…
hackuser on HNGreat idea, two years seems like too long though. It shouldn't take more than 6 - 9 months to learn the basics of being a full stack web developer, with another 6 - 9 months to…
Alex3917 on HN
Calling it a replacement for college is arrogant
From 2 comments
Sounds like a good program, at least from your marketing. But I would market is an alternative to college, not a replacement. It is a just a matter of word choice, but the word…
codingdave on HNI think I would far rather see this as a supplement to college than a replacement. I know it's in vogue today to claim that education is about "job training," but I worry that…
rpcope1 on HN
Tuition cost not stated on the site
From 1 comment
Seems odd that the actual cost of tuition is not stated anywhere on the site and discussion on it is vague; all that's stated is that you pay it with your internship earnings +…
Geekette on HN
Requests
Make curriculum available outside the US
From 1 comment
This seems too good to be true. Are there any plans of making the curriculum available to students who are not in the US. Perhaps for a fee? You could reach a wider audience.…
pskittle on HN
More detailed syllabus
From 1 comment
Neat. Would be interesting to see a more detailed syllabus of what is covered when. Also is the 25% rake net or gross? It is two years full time (well 1.5 if you consider…
sah88 on HN
Questions
How is the salary share taxed and what happens if a graduate leaves the field
From 2 comments
Sorry, but 25% of a persons salary for two years is a ridiculous amount of money. With a first year programmer making $75-$85k this cost will be similar to college debt. Will…
dollar on HNit'd be interesting to read the fine print it'd be interesting to know the tax implications of that 25% (is it pre tax/post tax) it appears to be risk free, as in, what happens…
pitt1980 on HN
Why SF location and costs
From 1 comment
Neat. Would be interesting to see a more detailed syllabus of what is covered when. Also is the 25% rake net or gross? It is two years full time (well 1.5 if you consider…
sah88 on HN
Alternatives named
Traditional four-year college
From 2 comments
I'm confused. College is amazing. Why would you want a college replacement? >Your education will be focused on building apps and websites that improve the lives of those around…
Jimmy on HNThis is kind of gimmicky. Most people are probably better off going to a 4-year university and studying CS/engineering/math/physics or something, and the few who want to learn in…
alexvr on HN
Coding bootcamps
From 2 comments
fair what's the going rate for a developer boot camp these days? 10K or so? if their placement rates are as good as they advertise (I don't really have a way of know if they are…
pitt1980 on HNI submit that bootcamps are creating this problem right now. Many bootcamp graduates have poor grasps of the basics of computing, which will tend to limit their skill and career…
Kalium on HN
ArsDigita University
From 1 comment
Reminds me a little of ADUni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArsDigita_University
cottonseed on HN