Estimote Indoor Location SDK

Infrastructure

indoor positioning sdk

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71points
30comments
#386of 2,565 in 2015
Top 16%of 2015 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

4 positive, 9 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 6 critical, out of 20 comments about the project. Thread score -0.13.

Performance: 0 for, 3 againstIdea: 1 for, 1 againstExecution: 1 for, 0 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Simple deployment and calibration of rooms

    From 1 comment
    • Hi Travis, Jakub again here. This is great; thanks for your comments. We try to have a very pragmatic approach and believe that room beaconifying procedure should be extremely…
      jimiasty on HN
  • Interesting technology and useful for many applications

    From 2 comments
    • Highly recommended stuff.
      RichardZite on HN
    • I had a fiddle with some Estimotes for a research project last year. Managed to get some fairly inaccurate indoor location tracking going on Android using 4 beacons and some…
      pr0vitamin on HN

Objections

  • Accuracy of about 4m is only middling compared to competitors

    From 1 comment
    • There are a ton of other competing technologies. We have been to the Microsoft Indoor Localization Competition and saw the estimote there too:…
      mmaroti on HN
  • Interference with Wi-Fi on Android devices

    From 2 comments
    • These are very cool, but unfortunately the last time I tried using BLE (specifically Estimote beacons with their sdk) in an Android app the interference with wifi made the…
      craigts on HN
    • From my experience, this usually happens with the older/cheaper Android devices that use a combined BT+WiFi radio/chipset (Nexus 4, Galaxy S3 etc.) Fortunately, the Android…
      heypiotr on HN
  • Location tracking raises privacy concerns

    From 2 comments
    • Im guessing (based on recently using Estimote beacons in a project) that this relies on inexpensive beacons and most of what happens is in the app. The beacons don't talk to the…
      bigiain on HN
    • Yep. Wifi is easy - any wifi module that can be put into "monitor mode" will let you listen in for SSID probes. Apple have started randomising the MAC address the device uses for…
      bigiain on HN
  • Only works on iOS for the home calibration feature

    From 1 comment

Requests

  • Documentation of the computational model and error sources

    From 1 comment
    • Do you use time of arrival techniques? What strategy do you use to overcome indoor multi-path conditions? Are there more detailed implementation notes somewhere? Reading the…
      wyc on HN
  • Android SDK support

    From 1 comment
    • I had a fiddle with some Estimotes for a research project last year. Managed to get some fairly inaccurate indoor location tracking going on Android using 4 beacons and some…
      pr0vitamin on HN

Questions

  • How well does it scale to large spaces and crowds

    From 2 comments
    • How big is "large spaces" (should I start pitching this internally for a client with a ~30x60m room)? How does it perform with many people at once (think of a trade show booth…
      bigiain on HN
    • Technically there is no limitation in the size of the space; it can be an airport or shopping mall - you just need to use more beacons if you want better results in a huge space.…
      jimiasty on HN
  • What phone settings are needed for it to work

    From 2 comments
    • For the average iPhone-toting person whose location is the one being plotted, what does their phone have to be set to in order for this to work? Do they have to have a specific…
      rmxt on HN
    • You just need bluetooth on. I don't believe the iPhone provides a distinct option for Bluetooth-On Visible vs Invisible.
      kingnight on HN
  • Does interference from bodies and materials distort results

    From 2 comments
    • Would the result be easily distorted by e.g. (human) bodies standing in-between, or certain materials (e.g. installing it in an art exhibition, but certain art installations use…
      wiradikusuma on HN
    • It very much depends on the number of people and obstacles (glass, metal). The best approach would be to put more beacons in that "interfering" areas. If beacons are installed…
      jimiasty on HN

Alternatives named

  • Ekahau indoor positioning

    From 1 comment
    • How does this compare to indoors location startup from 15 years back (or so?), Ekahau? http://www.ekahau.com/
      vardump on HN
  • WiFi, ZigBee and RFID localization

    From 1 comment
    • Pretty cool. You can achieve similar localization accuracy with WiFi, BLE, ZigBee, or long-range RFID. Common techniques are time of flight (ToF, or time of arrival), FMCW…
      beambot on HN
  • GPS on smartphones

    From 1 comment
    • Why not do this [1] and not have to worrie about other hardware? Everyone has a cell phone and it would end up more accurate. [1]…
      gravypod on HN

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