Rumuki
Security and privacy
encrypted video sharing
SHOW HN2017
405points
198comments
#33of 2,242 in 2017
Top 2%of 2017 by points
How HN took it
MixedNo clear lean
25 positive, 42 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 41 critical, out of 115 comments about the project. Thread score -0.14.
Privacy: 3 for, 28 againstIdea: 14 for, 13 againstDesign: 8 for, 0 against
The thread, comment by comment
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What HN said
What people liked
Design and landing page praised
From 3 comments
I'm incredibly impressed by the design work on this. As someone who has studied design the past few years, the landing page alone is filled with little details and choices that…
ChicagoBoy11 on HNVery nice work on the website. It looks great and it's highly informative.
eriknstr on HNI agree with the consensus here that the marketing angle is delicate and may need work, but these is genius and the landing page is very nicely done. The image of the two phones…
tambourine_man on HN
Interesting, clever idea
From 3 comments
This is a clever idea that I feel has lots of uses, not just sex tapes.
secfirstmd on HNGreat idea, fantastic execution, I hope you will succeed with this. I'd extend the usage scenario to picture sharing though.
terhechte on HNYou know, this sounds absurd, but I like it.
romanpoet on HN
Objections
Analog hole: screen recording or filming the screen defeats it
From 4 comments
This is a really cool concept. But ultimately you cannot get past the analog hole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole
shiado on HNUmmm, so shoot a video of the playing video. Or hack into the display circuitry. With that, you could stream a copy somewhere, even if both parties were present.
mirimir on HNA multi-person key is interesting. In practice, however, any system like this, Snapchat, etc is easily defeated with a USB cable and QuickTime's record device screen feature. I…
tedmiston on HNThis doesn't solve the problem it's marketing to: people can record the screen as soon as the 7 day access is granted. It makes that problem worse as well, if someone doesn't…
codeisawesome on HN
Couples won't install a special app for this
From 2 comments
It's an interesting idea, but I don't think it will work in practice. These moments happen naturally because the couple trusts in each other. Convincing my girlfriend to download…
nmat on HNIt seems like a good idea, but won't work. I can't imagine two horny teens like: M: Show me something hot baby F: Sure! But please install that app to take all the nececary…
euphetar on HN
Marketing as a prenup sounds like a legal contract and implies distrust
From 2 comments
I think "a prenup for home videos" might be the worst marketing angle possible. It sounds like a legal contract. But, worse, it makes it sound like it's only something you should…
always_good on HNTwo thoughts: - I think I would sell this as a private camera app ("protect you and your partner from prying eyes"), rather than by emphasizing the two-party crypto angle…
JackC on HN
Requests
Support more than two people
From 3 comments
Not everybody is in a monogamous relationship. Is it possible to use the app for more than two devices (i.e. more than two people)?
xkxx on HNOnly two keys? The lack of threesome (and beyond) support shows somewhat of a lack of vision.
kazinator on HNwould be nice if it was a n of m keys. Could be useful to film in a protest but only be able to unlock it with more people from the news room while still syncing it to them.
RRRA on HN
Shared library or revocable access
From 1 comment
i just read the page again and realize this is for a single view and a maximum of 7 days for sex tapes recorded while both partners are present. in my opinion this is one way to…
stefs on HN
Market as 2FA instead
From 2 comments
I think "a prenup for home videos" might be the worst marketing angle possible. It sounds like a legal contract. But, worse, it makes it sound like it's only something you should…
always_good on HNThis doesn't solve the problem it's marketing to: people can record the screen as soon as the 7 day access is granted. It makes that problem worse as well, if someone doesn't…
codeisawesome on HN
Questions
How is client-side key storage and obfuscation handled
From 1 comment
This is a cool idea. I expressed an upfront concern about reverse engineering in another comment directly to the OP (no DRM is foolproof, etc). After skimming through the…
dsacco on HN
What happens if one person dies
From 1 comment
What happens when one person dies? Is the other cut off, or is the system smart enough to have a dead man's switch option that lets you allow access if no response is given in X…
dbg31415 on HN
Alternatives named
Snapchat
From 1 comment
It's an interesting idea, but I don't think it will work in practice. These moments happen naturally because the couple trusts in each other. Convincing my girlfriend to download…
nmat on HN
Nakedescrow
From 1 comment
I invented this four years ago, minus the crypto. http://web.archive.org/web/20110210234301/http://nakedescrow.com/
xrd on HN