Naughty List

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197points
124comments
#189of 2,155 in 2018
Top 9%of 2018 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

4 positive, 23 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 25 critical, out of 54 comments about the project. Thread score -0.34.

Privacy: 0 for, 9 againstExecution: 0 for, 7 againstIdea: 2 for, 5 againstDesign: 1 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good idea that is useful with GDPR coming

    From 2 comments
    • I like this idea a lot. With GDPR on the horizon, this is a great resource to put together. I’m a little confused about the implementation right now. I don’t understand Rank and…
      marcc on HN
    • I like this idea a lot, however, as many others said, you need to be transparent with the scores. I was more confused after reading your FAQ. Additionally, the column where you…
      peternicky on HN

Objections

  • Scoring and rank meaning is unclear

    From 3 comments
    • I like this idea a lot. With GDPR on the horizon, this is a great resource to put together. I’m a little confused about the implementation right now. I don’t understand Rank and…
      marcc on HN
    • It would help to explain your scores a bit (is +10 worse than -10?)
      alphamonster on HN
    • I like this idea a lot, however, as many others said, you need to be transparent with the scores. I was more confused after reading your FAQ. Additionally, the column where you…
      peternicky on HN
  • Page is hard to use and navigate

    From 2 comments
    • The navigation is a bit confusing. I didn't know the landing page was the "Naughty List". And I was expecting each "category" to filter the existing list, not show a new list of…
      et-al on HN
    • This page doesn't make sense: you say Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information at the top, and then immediately list, e.g. "Outlook Mail: Delete Account? Yes". This…
      rexpop on HN
  • Table fails to load without JavaScript

    From 2 comments
    • Something's up with the site, at least for me. The table content doesn't load - I see the different options (email, etc.) but no entries. Firefox console tells me: ---- Loading…
      sleavey on HN
    • The list does not appear without allowing 3rd party javascript (and presumably tracking) by Google :/
      f2n on HN
  • Reasons and sources for ratings are missing

    From 2 comments
    • Please add reasons for each site why they have points they have and links that support those claims. For example, you said that Facebook deletes data partially. What does it mean?
      mic47 on HN
    • I don't understand why were some of the tech added to the list. The title says "Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information Services with the highest scores have the worst…
      qpiox on HN

Requests

  • Add reasons and links for each rating

    From 2 comments
    • Please add reasons for each site why they have points they have and links that support those claims. For example, you said that Facebook deletes data partially. What does it mean?
      mic47 on HN
    • Nice! Some thoughts: - I’d rank them on a combination of size and score. - perhaps a link to relevant delete / info page - automatic vs manual (ie do you need to ask support) -…
      sandstrom on HN
  • Add more services such as Gmail and Mailgun

    From 2 comments
  • Sort list by naughtiest first

    From 1 comment
    • The very first thing that shows is the companies that are the least naughty. This is a naughty list is it not? Suggest to please sort by naughtiest first.
      evolve2k on HN

Questions

  • Why are some non-company tools like Tox listed?

    From 1 comment
    • I don't understand why were some of the tech added to the list. The title says "Tech Companies That Won't Delete Your Information Services with the highest scores have the worst…
      qpiox on HN
  • Why is Hacker News not listed?

    From 1 comment

Alternatives named

  • JustDeleteMe

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks, I appreciate the thought and effort. There is too much special sauce on the page for me to see the actual list (perhaps one of your critical resources is already on my…
      tejtm on HN
  • 2FA List (twofactorauth.org)

    From 1 comment
    • Great! Apologies if my older post was a bit curt. I'm glad you're building this. btw, have you seen the 2FA List? https://twofactorauth.org/
      et-al on HN

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