Next Browser

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SHOW HN2018

198points
114comments
#184of 2,155 in 2018
Top 9%of 2018 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

13 positive, 20 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 20 critical, out of 54 comments about the project. Thread score -0.18.

Idea: 8 for, 9 againstExecution: 0 for, 6 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 2 againstDesign: 1 for, 1 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting idea for Lisp-scriptable, keyboard-oriented browsing

    From 3 comments
    • It seems pretty interesting, especially the mouseless part. I tried [Vimperator](http://vimperator.org/) on Firefox for a while, but it seems the web was really hard to use…
      Majestic121 on HN
    • What if a browser was built like Emacs is built? With low-level rendering core exposing almost everything to scripting in Lisp, and the entire UX written in Lisp, fully…
      nine_k on HN
    • Good job on the website. Clear and simple. I might give it a go, I wanted lean and keyboard oriented (never got to setup firefox extensions properly for that). Bravo
      agumonkey on HN
  • Excitement about Linux availability

    From 2 comments
    • I’m really excited to see this! I’ve got it compiling right now. Can’t wait to give it a spin.
      zeveb on HN
    • Congratulations! It won’t be ready for primetime until there’s a good adblocker — but now that it runs on Linux, folks like me can work on an adblocker for it. I’m really excited…
      rauhl on HN

Objections

  • No ad blocker yet

    From 3 comments
    • No adblock is a show stopper for me, but they have a campaign on Indie Go Go with adblocking as one of the goals https://github.com/atlas-engineer/next/issues/32…
      pmontra on HN
    • Very nice, we need more of that. There's also qutebrowser [1], but none of these are usable without a proper adblocker implementation. [1] https://qutebrowser.org
      purerandomness on HN
    • Dear lisp fanatics, Please write an ad blocker in lisp for this thing. Sincerely Yours, Chance
      jancsika on HN
  • Security concerns from running WebKit without Chrome-style sandboxing

    From 1 comment
    • I saw your post at lisp.reddit.com today and there was a redditor there that brought forth webkit security concerns that IMV you did not properly address. Thread is here…
      insertcredit on HN
  • Hard to install or run; binaries fail to execute

    From 2 comments
    • Super cool that you use this Guix thing and all that (although Nix is better, who cares), but it is impossible to run this thing. I've followed the steps and still my binary…
      fiatjaf on HN
    • Won't start on macOS 10.14.1
      mosselman on HN

Requests

  • Ad blocker support

    From 2 comments
    • No adblock is a show stopper for me, but they have a campaign on Indie Go Go with adblocking as one of the goals https://github.com/atlas-engineer/next/issues/32…
      pmontra on HN
    • This is correct! it is also next on our to-do list! https://github.com/atlas-engineer/next/tree/master/documents#120
      jmercouris on HN
  • Vim or modal keybindings

    From 2 comments
    • Looks like a great idea. However as someone who spends all day in vim, I wish it had an option for vim bindings or at least some kind of modal interface.
      charlesdaniels on HN
    • this is true, but one of the main co-authors is a VI/EVIL user, so we are working on VI keybindings for the next release. Still trying to work out how to best integrate them into…
      jmercouris on HN
  • WebExtensions support

    From 1 comment
    • Do you plan to support WebExtensions[0] once they're standardized? It seems like every time a new browser comes out, the immediate question is, "what does the extension ecosystem…
      danShumway on HN
  • Windows and macOS ports

    From 2 comments
    • give us microsoft users a chance too. i'd like to try it, but im not going to waste precious free time to do so.
      timwaagh on HN
    • please register to vote (registration is on download page)! https://next.atlas.engineer/download if there is enough interest for a Windows port, we may very well make one!
      jmercouris on HN

Questions

  • How does it compare to Vimb and Qutebrowser on performance and crashes?

    From 2 comments
    • There is also Vimb [1], which is another keyboard-focused web browser. It also runs on GTK+ and WebKit2. How does Next compare to it? (Except for obviously being more suited for…
      gnull on HN
    • It looks like a direct competitor to Qutebrowser which uses PyQt5 + QtWebEngine: https://qutebrowser.org/ Interesting to see that Next Browser integrates Lisp with WebKitGTK+.
      kbumsik on HN
  • Why Lisp, given weak GTK bindings?

    From 1 comment
    • Demo videos: https://next.atlas.engineer/#features I don't get the choice of Lisp. I don't mind it, I use Emacs, but a more popular language can have more complete platform…
      dmortin on HN

Alternatives named

  • qutebrowser

    From 2 comments
    • It looks like a direct competitor to Qutebrowser which uses PyQt5 + QtWebEngine: https://qutebrowser.org/ Interesting to see that Next Browser integrates Lisp with WebKitGTK+.
      kbumsik on HN
    • Very nice, we need more of that. There's also qutebrowser [1], but none of these are usable without a proper adblocker implementation. [1] https://qutebrowser.org
      purerandomness on HN
  • Vimb

    From 1 comment
    • There is also Vimb [1], which is another keyboard-focused web browser. It also runs on GTK+ and WebKit2. How does Next compare to it? (Except for obviously being more suited for…
      gnull on HN
  • Luakit

    From 1 comment
    • I see no one mentioned luakit (https://luakit.github.io/). From the site: "Luakit is a highly configurable browser framework based on the WebKit web content engine and the GTK+…
      1g0rb on HN
  • Tridactyl

    From 1 comment
    • Tridactyl (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tridactyl-vim/) is another viable alternative (modern incarnation of Vimperator/Pentadactyl).
      sgtpep on HN

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