30 Hour Jobs

Web and SaaS

job board

SHOW HN2019

558points
137comments
#24of 2,195 in 2019
Top 2%of 2019 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

5 positive, 5 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 8 critical, out of 19 comments about the project. Thread score -0.10.

Idea: 4 for, 4 againstExecution: 0 for, 4 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful resource for people seeking shorter work weeks

    From 3 comments
    • If you want a shorter workweek you should definitely sign up for the 30 Hour Jobs list (https://30hourjobs.com/), but—keep in mind there just aren't that many companies that have…
      itamarst on HN
    • As someone approaching middles ages with a family to take care of, this is something I really appreciate and have bookmarked. I hope it takes off and does well.
      thorwasdfasdf on HN
    • I really hope this picks up and I'll keep a close eye on this job board for sure. Great idea!
      Sweetness on HN
  • Shorter hours can improve life balance and productivity

    From 3 comments
    • In the past few years I’ve gone to 30 hour weeks. It really frustrated my managers at Google, but as an hourly contractor I neither needed the extra money nor wanted to be at…
      TaylorAlexander on HN
    • I was once in a position where I really wanted this, I even made a post on Ask HN ~2 years ago in hopes to generate some discussion and find resources about it [1]. Things have…
      godot on HN
    • I work 4 days a week from home, one day off. No commute, having a whole day with my daughter (wife works on that day) and it's great! I also think I will look back at this time…
      patatino on HN

Objections

  • Few listed jobs actually offer shorter weeks; listings say 40 hours

    From 2 comments
    • The first job I clicked on is advertising a 40 hour working week.. https://jobs.30hourjobs.com/jobs/4d4823a6-661c-451a-8418-6e896199a41f
      ElmUser1022 on HN
    • The thoughtbot jobs say they are 40 hour a week jobs in the description.
      gregkerzhner on HN
  • Job board may attract people who only want to work less, not high-value roles

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting, but I don't think it is as easily cracked as simply creating a 30hr job board. Certainly there are people who want to work 30hrs because on balance they will be more…
      johngalt on HN
  • 30 hours may be a legal benefits threshold and risky for employees

    From 2 comments
    • Interesting, but I don't think it is as easily cracked as simply creating a 30hr job board. Certainly there are people who want to work 30hrs because on balance they will be more…
      johngalt on HN
    • I think 30 hours is much more realistic for cognitively intensive work. Assuming people are not wasting a lot of time. So this makes sense to me. And I love that the jobs I am…
      ilaksh on HN

Requests

  • Add RSS autodiscovery link to the site

    From 1 comment
    • Managing to secure work-from-home employment, initially three days, and currently four days, allowed me to keep working when we hit a high needs situation with one of our kids.…
      anotherevan on HN
  • Include companies of all flexible-hours types, not only 30-hour roles

    From 2 comments
    • Hey everyone, I created this newsletter and job board because I’ve noticed a trend in companies measuring employee output with results instead of hours worked. I strongly believe…
      nbrempel on HN
    • "30 Hour Jobs" is the title but the site is intended to capture all sorts of working environments that embrace reduced working hours or flexible work in some capacity. You can…
      nbrempel on HN

Questions

  • Why is 30 hours the standard shorter week rather than 32 or another number

    From 1 comment
    • why is 30 the go-to length for shorter work weeks? I chose 32 because it's 4/5 of 40. I work four days a week instead of five and im not worried about how many hours I put in.…
      seniorsassycat on HN
  • Why measure hours instead of productivity

    From 2 comments
    • Number of hours still seems like the wrong unit of measurement to me. Shouldn't companies care more about productivity?
      akozak on HN
    • I know everyone wants to judge productivity instead of hours per week. But, I feel that 40 hours per week is a reasonable amount to request and that MOST (not all) employees are…
      excelleme on HN

Alternatives named

  • Negotiating a reduced week directly with current employer

    From 2 comments
    • If you want a shorter workweek you should definitely sign up for the 30 Hour Jobs list (https://30hourjobs.com/), but—keep in mind there just aren't that many companies that have…
      itamarst on HN
    • This won't work at a company that inherently values long hours, yes. And it's much easier at a job you've been at for a while, yes, because then you're much more valuable in a…
      itamarst on HN
  • Remote work arrangements

    From 2 comments
    • I was once in a position where I really wanted this, I even made a post on Ask HN ~2 years ago in hopes to generate some discussion and find resources about it [1]. Things have…
      godot on HN
    • The issue is that when you work 30 hours you are still really working with the same output as 40 hours. You will basically squeeze the 5 days into 4. I honestly feel it's easier…
      warp_factor on HN

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