Aristotl

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logic reference

SHOW HN2019

173points
52comments
#234of 2,195 in 2019
Top 11%of 2019 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

7 positive, 11 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 6 critical, out of 27 comments about the project. Thread score +0.02.

Design: 4 for, 2 againstIdea: 1 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful A-Z list of fallacies.

    From 2 comments

Objections

  • Fallacy-hunting tends to shut down debate rather than improve it.

    From 2 comments
    • I'm afraid that a resource like this will make internet debates even less pleasant and productive than they already are. To my experience, calling out an internet interlocutor…
      YeGoblynQueenne on HN
    • It's not obvious to me that this is a good thing to have. I predict that its primary usage will be as a generator of fully-general counterarguments: people will use it to look up…
      Smaug123 on HN
  • Some definitions are inaccurate, e.g. naturalistic fallacy and probabilistic fallacies.

    From 2 comments
    • I strongly suggest using better sources for this. You should avoid using Wikipedia when things like the SEP[1] and IEP[2] are available. Also, "probabilistic" fallacies are not…
      dvt on HN
    • "Probabilistic fallacies" aren't "formal fallacies" because formal fallacies have a very narrow definition: they are fallacies of formal logic -- be it FOL, SOL, infinitary…
      dvt on HN
  • Interface is confusing; the info button and symbols are unclear.

    From 2 comments
    • I don't understand what's supposed to be especially intuitive about this? It's an alphabetic list of fallacies - how do I "lookup" one if not by just scrolling down the list? I…
      pragmatick on HN
    • I appreciate the effort you put in for designing the site but as a user it’s confusing for me. Before using the content i have to learn how to use your site ? Why not keep the…
      cryptozeus on HN
  • Content largely copied from the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

    From 1 comment
    • this looks to largely be a "cool" UI on top of this page (the few examples etc that i checked are copied verbatim from here): https://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#RedHerring i prefer…
      maximente on HN

Requests

  • Add plain-English explanations and more examples.

    From 2 comments
    • I wonder if anyone has ever said, sincerely, "sir, I believe you are committing an Argumentum ad Baculum," let alone had this produce a useful result. Discussion is subject to an…
      ben509 on HN
    • If I could recommend something: the ability to share a specific fallacy to social media in response to a comment or tweet will bring you a lot of traffic. I would sometimes link…
      dandare on HN
  • Add a share-to-social-media option for specific fallacies.

    From 1 comment
    • If I could recommend something: the ability to share a specific fallacy to social media in response to a comment or tweet will bring you a lot of traffic. I would sometimes link…
      dandare on HN
  • Add a random fallacy button.

    From 1 comment
  • Make pagination clearer.

    From 1 comment
    • I really loved the site, great work. My only feedback is to make the pagination more apparent...I at first thought it was a work in progress and you only had the first 20 until I…
      adim86 on HN
  • Add a fallback for users without JavaScript.

    From 1 comment
    • I liked the style of the site and the clear presentation (I've bookmarked it, you have repeat business:) but I'd appreciate it if there was a fallback for those without…
      brigandish on HN

Questions

  • Will it include cognitive biases?

    From 1 comment
    • Hmm, will it include cognitive biases, too? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
      johnisgood on HN
  • Are there attempts to detect fallacies programmatically in text?

    From 3 comments
    • are there any successful attempts to programatically detect fallacies in text?
      Khanhanhan on HN
    • Seems like a good collection of various logical constructs. I wonder if the authors have any plans to program it into something that could identify or use these same patterns in…
      aerodynamika on HN
    • Is anyone working on a fallacy, lie detecter using NLP ?
      foobar_ on HN

Alternatives named

  • yourlogicalfallacyis.com

    From 2 comments
    • In a similar vein https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com was put together back in early 2012. Not quite exhaustive, but meant to cover off the big hitters. Main benefit was that it…
      somishere on HN
    • You might appreciate this site: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
      RichardHeart on HN
  • Wikipedia's List of fallacies

    From 1 comment
    • See also Wikipedia’s “List of fallacies”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
      trevyn on HN
  • Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy fallacy page

    From 1 comment
    • this looks to largely be a "cool" UI on top of this page (the few examples etc that i checked are copied verbatim from here): https://www.iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#RedHerring i prefer…
      maximente on HN
  • Fallacy Files taxonomy

    From 1 comment
    • I prefer http://www.fallacyfiles.org/taxonnew.htm, albeit that page could really do with some DRAKON-derived layouting rules.
      no_identd on HN

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