Magistrate

Web and SaaS

contract management

SHOW HN2022

279points
101comments
#156of 2,570 in 2022
Top 7%of 2022 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

14 positive, 23 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 13 critical, out of 52 comments about the project. Thread score +0.09.

Idea: 12 for, 7 againstDesign: 0 for, 4 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Plain text contracts are a good idea that could improve workflows

    From 3 comments
    • This is really really good. If you can build a collaboration ecosystem around this a kind of GitHub meets Seedlegals then you can create a huge amount of value and disrupt an…
      thruflo on HN
    • This is great! I too have wondered why contracts can't be in plain text since the versioning and back-and-forth between legal and business teams could be handled so much more…
      otoburb on HN
    • I have to say, I've wanted someone to do this for years. Amazing to see it coming about. Imagine if it were possible to describe more and more things the way Creative Commons does?
      robertlagrant on HN
  • Simpler e-signing than DocuSign is welcome

    From 2 comments
    • I've used eSignatures.io in the past, which uses Markdown for contracts, and found it to be exponentially easier to use than DocuSign, so I appreciate simpler solutions coming…
      programmarchy on HN
    • This is a great first step towards better online signing of contracts. I agree with what the FAQ says: "I've always thought that the fake cursive signatures that most electronic…
      jaza on HN

Objections

  • Lawyers will stick with Microsoft Word due to opposing counsel and history needs

    From 2 comments
    • I have found it impractical to get lawyers to use anything other than Microsoft Word even when there are clear benefits (like online collaboration and shared version history).…
      mushufasa on HN
    • I used to be Director of Research at "one company that makes some of the leading legal information access products". You won't likely divorce lawyers from their beloved Word…
      jll29 on HN
  • Signatures are just typed text without cryptographic verification

    From 1 comment
    • This is a great first step towards better online signing of contracts. I agree with what the FAQ says: "I've always thought that the fake cursive signatures that most electronic…
      jaza on HN
  • No standard formatting or clause numbering for plain text contracts

    From 1 comment
    • Have you developed a standardised format for expressing a legal contract as plain text (including clause numbers, definitions, etc)? The example I see on your Docs page doesn't…
      NoboruWataya on HN
  • Contracts are not like code; the analogy is weak

    From 1 comment
    • Lawyer here. Much like "Smart Contracts" (presently the worst named thing for anything these days), this is that thing where a tech person believes that lawyer problems are like…
      jrm4 on HN

Requests

  • Templating with inline parameters

    From 2 comments
    • I've used eSignatures.io in the past, which uses Markdown for contracts, and found it to be exponentially easier to use than DocuSign, so I appreciate simpler solutions coming…
      programmarchy on HN
    • It would be awesome if you used a templating system for the writing process. Then the writers can have templates and just change who $ {partyA} is.
      olah_1 on HN
  • Webhooks and metadata on contracts

    From 1 comment
    • I've used eSignatures.io in the past, which uses Markdown for contracts, and found it to be exponentially easier to use than DocuSign, so I appreciate simpler solutions coming…
      programmarchy on HN
  • Security documentation and audit trails

    From 1 comment
    • I appreciate the concept here, but I have to ask: do you have a security page for this that documents the controls in place? I get that that's probably not a priority for a…
      eganist on HN
  • A GUI rather than only an API

    From 2 comments
    • I used to be Director of Research at "one company that makes some of the leading legal information access products". You won't likely divorce lawyers from their beloved Word…
      jll29 on HN
    • This is a neat idea. So is there a repository where the contract is stored, and does every one have read access to it? Does a version control track changes? I do feel you'd have…
      webmobdev on HN

Questions

  • Where is proof of signing stored and will it outlast the company

    From 1 comment
    • So where is the proof that all parties signed located? On your servers? So do I rely on your company still offering the service if there is a contract dispute 5 years down the…
      andi999 on HN
  • Which legal jurisdiction it targets

    From 1 comment
    • I couldnt tell what country and thus legal system this was aimed at, so I've assumed this is geared for the US and not European countries and spent like 20seconds on it before…
      Terry_Roll on HN
  • Whether the signatures hold up in court

    From 1 comment
    • Is there a legal way to demonstrate the legally binding aspect? I mean could you, for example, sign a document with your friend, have them purposefully violate it, and then take…
      omarhaneef on HN

Alternatives named

  • eSignatures.io

    From 1 comment
    • I've used eSignatures.io in the past, which uses Markdown for contracts, and found it to be exponentially easier to use than DocuSign, so I appreciate simpler solutions coming…
      programmarchy on HN
  • DocuSign

    From 1 comment
    • I've used eSignatures.io in the past, which uses Markdown for contracts, and found it to be exponentially easier to use than DocuSign, so I appreciate simpler solutions coming…
      programmarchy on HN
  • Thomson Reuters Contract Express

    From 1 comment
    • I used to be Director of Research at "one company that makes some of the leading legal information access products". You won't likely divorce lawyers from their beloved Word…
      jll29 on HN
  • Microsoft Word

    From 1 comment
    • I have found it impractical to get lawyers to use anything other than Microsoft Word even when there are clear benefits (like online collaboration and shared version history).…
      mushufasa on HN

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