Phind-CodeLlama-34B

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code generation model

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#1,217of 3,109 in 2023
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17 positive, 48 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 14 critical, out of 80 comments about the project. Thread score +0.07.

Performance: 6 for, 6 againstExecution: 1 for, 3 againstIdea: 3 for, 0 againstPricing: 3 for, 0 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 against

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What people liked

  • Impressive that an open model beats a large closed model after fine-tuning

    From 2 comments
    • Super impressive. Being able to beat a mega closed source model with an open source LLM and some fine tuning really calls into question the financial viability of these big…
      JCM9 on HN
    • This is impressive, so congratulations. I also think that this is a great example of how open source can simply lead to faster and better acceleration.
      lemonlym on HN
  • Runs locally on consumer hardware and feels usable

    From 2 comments
    • I used the original 34B last night with 4 bit through accelerate and I was absolutely blown away. I got goosebumps because it finally felt like we have models we can run on…
      syntaxing on HN
    • It really is good. Surprisingly it seems to answer instruct-like prompts well! I’ve been using it with Ollama (https://github.com/jmorganca/ollama) with prompts like: ``` ollama…
      jmorgan on HN

Objections

  • HumanEval is a small benchmark and not representative of real engineering work

    From 1 comment
    • Glad this work is happening! That said, HumanEval as the current gold standard for benchmarking models is a crime. The dataset itself is tiny (around 150) examples and all the…
      bfogelman on HN
  • GPT-4 scores as high as 85% on HumanEval, so the comparison is questioned

    From 2 comments
    • GPT-4 as served in the API has been getting 85% on HumanEval (compared to 69.5% claimed here) https://twitter.com/amanrsanger/status/1635751764577361921…
      agnokapathetic on HN
    • Glad this work is happening! That said, HumanEval as the current gold standard for benchmarking models is a crime. The dataset itself is tiny (around 150) examples and all the…
      bfogelman on HN
  • Quantized GGUF versions gave poor results

    From 2 comments
    • I actually tried the 4 bit quants (Q4_K_M) and was a bit unimpressed. Switching to Q6_K made a huge difference, but it doesn't fit on my 3090 so it was very slow. And testing on…
      redox99 on HN
    • I have a hunch something is broken with the GGUF. I had terrible results using llama cpp as well.
      syntaxing on HN

Requests

  • Publish the training dataset

    From 2 comments
    • Is the dataset open source?
      xpl on HN
    • Great stuff - and training was so cheap too - it would have cost less than $200 on Runpod, and half that price on spot instances. I guess it's time languages other than Python,…
      knotty66 on HN
  • Support for less popular languages such as Pascal and Elixir

    From 2 comments
    • Are you planning to switch to programming-language optimized model inside Phind? So, if a user is asking for something related to Python, that the python-optimized model gets…
      Fischgericht on HN
    • Quite promising, and at last it looks like we have pretty decent models that can run locally. It is not perfect; still they fail in the first go to provide a correct answer to…
      freehorse on HN
  • Add the prompt format to the model card

    From 1 comment
    • Could you please add the prompt format to the model card, or at least here?
      redox99 on HN

Questions

  • What hardware is needed to run it locally

    From 2 comments
    • what hardware could one run this locally on? probably need 3090 etc right? finally a reason to upgrade from my m1 max
      tomr75 on HN
    • Totally out of my depth here but is there any chance that this could be added to something like Ollama and run on a 32gb or 64gb M series Mac in due course? I’m currently running…
      darkteflon on HN
  • Whether the fine-tuning method and dataset can be reproduced

    From 2 comments
    • Are you planning to switch to programming-language optimized model inside Phind? So, if a user is asking for something related to Python, that the python-optimized model gets…
      Fischgericht on HN
    • What would the hardware requirement for fine-tuning a Llama 2 ?
      xmly on HN

Alternatives named

  • GPT-4

    From 2 comments
    • GPT-4 as served in the API has been getting 85% on HumanEval (compared to 69.5% claimed here) https://twitter.com/amanrsanger/status/1635751764577361921…
      agnokapathetic on HN
    • Ive used GPT 4 for pretty much all of my programming needs and the convenience of a 20 dollar subscription taking care of everything and letting me use a LLM without having to…
      rikafurude21 on HN
  • Original CodeLlama

    From 2 comments
    • Glad to see open source models becoming competitive and thanks for sharing the model to community! Lepton AI has hosted this model here free for everyone to give it a try (and…
      ccding on HN
    • I tried out the 7B one last night and wasn’t impressed. When asking to write in Python it correctly can write regex to parse a date but when you ask it the same but in TypeScript…
      wdb on HN
  • Llama 2 70B

    From 1 comment
    • llama2 70b is great i have tried it can easily beat gpt4 but llama2 is trained very strictly it i mean llama2 doesnot reply to many questions that gpt4 does! bonus: 100% free Ai…
      yasir111 on HN

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