Meteor

Dev tools

web framework

SHOW HN2012

1,386points
322comments
#2of 1,677 in 2012
Top 1%of 2012 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

54 positive, 78 neutral or asking, 12 mixed, 71 critical, out of 215 comments about the project. Thread score -0.04.

Idea: 31 for, 12 againstExecution: 0 for, 18 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 15 againstDesign: 5 for, 5 againstPricing: 1 for, 4 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Impressive demo and presentation

    From 3 comments
    • Just watched the entire demo. First time I heard two people present a product together - definitely makes it a lot more interesting and much less monotonous. After the first…
      chime on HN
    • Big props on stellar presentation. The code is impressive, but even better is their slick install, deploy, docs, screencast and examples. This looks big. If nothing else,…
      bryanh on HN
    • Very cool implementation, and fantastic site and video! I grabbed the source to see what it would take to write a mysql plugin. As far as I can tell, it's fairly well tied into…
      enobrev on HN
  • Feels like early Rails in its potential

    From 1 comment
    • This feels to me a lot like how Rails felt back in 2005. A fundamental leap forward and an understanding of where web technology is going. I haven't felt that way about Node.js…
      luigi on HN

Objections

  • Client-side database access raises security concerns

    From 3 comments
    • "You can use the database api on the client!" Does that freak anyone else out? Where are they doing permissions checking? Who can run what database commands under what…
      rabidsnail on HN
    • I'm surprised no one is talking about the glaring hole, which is security. It's apparently on the developers' short list of high priority features…
      erikpukinskis on HN
    • The live demo is here: http://colors.meteor.com/ Seems to have a minor glitch with unicode characters? When you do Colors.remove() everything goes away, but the entries with…
      defeated on HN
  • Curl-pipe-sh installation is unsafe

    From 2 comments
    • This is a very uncool way to install something: ``` $ curl install.meteor.com | /bin/sh ```
      delano on HN
    • One comment on the screencast, isn't encouraging people to do ``` curl $URI | sh ``` a really bad idea?
      xxpor on HN
  • Server-rendered HTML missing, hurting crawlers

    From 1 comment
    • I got very excited after watching that video. Meteor does a great job at hitting a lot of things a new web framework requires. However, I then viewed the source on meteor.com. It…
      gsharma on HN

Requests

  • Support for SQL databases beyond MongoDB

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool implementation, and fantastic site and video! I grabbed the source to see what it would take to write a mysql plugin. As far as I can tell, it's fairly well tied into…
      enobrev on HN
  • CoffeeScript support

    From 2 comments
    • Big props on stellar presentation. The code is impressive, but even better is their slick install, deploy, docs, screencast and examples. This looks big. If nothing else,…
      bryanh on HN
    • Looks interesting, but.. ``` $ curl install.meteor.com | sh Unable to install. Meteor supports RedHat and Debian. Installation failed. ``` However the slow start description in…
      tete on HN
  • Static HTML serving for crawlers

    From 1 comment
    • I got very excited after watching that video. Meteor does a great job at hitting a lot of things a new web framework requires. However, I then viewed the source on meteor.com. It…
      gsharma on HN

Questions

  • How are permissions and security enforced on client writes?

    From 2 comments
    • "You can use the database api on the client!" Does that freak anyone else out? Where are they doing permissions checking? Who can run what database commands under what…
      rabidsnail on HN
    • I'm surprised no one is talking about the glaring hole, which is security. It's apparently on the developers' short list of high priority features…
      erikpukinskis on HN
  • How does conflict handling work?

    From 1 comment
    • This is very neat. I've been using Backbone + ShareJS[1] to do a lot of similar things for a current app I'm building. This is certainly nicer, though, with concepts like latency…
      silverlight on HN
  • Is GPL viable for a web framework?

    From 1 comment
    • Is GPL really viable for a web framework? The Free Software Foundation has consistently held that linking to GPL code (not LGPL) is derived work.
      equark on HN
  • What is the monetization plan?

    From 1 comment
    • This looks extremely interesting, and reminds me a bit of Lunascript (http://asana.com/luna/). I'm very interested in who is paying for the development? I notice that there's no…
      beggi on HN

Alternatives named

  • Asana Luna

    From 2 comments
    • This looks extremely interesting, and reminds me a bit of Lunascript (http://asana.com/luna/). I'm very interested in who is paying for the development? I notice that there's no…
      beggi on HN
    • Neat. Sounds a bit like Asana's Luna: http://asana.com/luna/
      tlrobinson on HN
  • SocketStream

    From 1 comment
    • Looks interesting, but.. ``` $ curl install.meteor.com | sh Unable to install. Meteor supports RedHat and Debian. Installation failed. ``` However the slow start description in…
      tete on HN
  • Firebase

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting (and smart) that they post to Hacker News a couple of days prior to the launch of Firebase (which provided the realtime functionality used by MMO Asteroids and has…
      jaredsohn on HN
  • Backbone with ShareJS

    From 1 comment
    • This is very neat. I've been using Backbone + ShareJS[1] to do a lot of similar things for a current app I'm building. This is certainly nicer, though, with concepts like latency…
      silverlight on HN

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