SecureAI Tools

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SecureAI Tools

Open source alternative to ChatGPT and ChatPDF-like AI tools

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#self-hosted llm#chat with pdf#ollama#rag chatbot

234points
60comments
#220of 3,109 in 2023
Top 8%of 2023 by points

How HN took it

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1 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 7 critical, out of 24 comments about the project. Thread score -0.17.

Performance: 0 for, 3 againstIdea: 0 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

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What people liked

  • Useful, well-timed open source tool

    From 2 comments
    • Great job. This is a relatively crowded area, particularly RAG style chat systems. It might be nice for SecureAI to call out what makes their product different from other open…
      vunderba on HN
    • Nice tool. However, these days, people are looking for something that is more feature-rich and can perform various tasks. Building an RAG system with a chat interface is common.…
      sunnysogra on HN

Objections

  • Scanned PDFs and OCR not supported

    From 1 comment
    • Great questions. > 1. Does chat-with-pdfs function work with scanned PDFs? Not yet. We don't do OCR or anything to extract text from images yet. But that would be an awesome…
      d7y on HN
  • Large PDF collections slow to index

    From 1 comment
    • Right now it supports selecting & uploading a _few_ PDFs on chat-creation. Those PDFs get indexed online -- i.e. while the user waits. So it doesn't scale well with the number of…
      d7y on HN
  • Privacy claims unclear; demo uses ChatGPT

    From 1 comment
  • Crowded space versus existing tools

    From 1 comment
    • Great job. This is a relatively crowded area, particularly RAG style chat systems. It might be nice for SecureAI to call out what makes their product different from other open…
      vunderba on HN

Requests

  • Support for OCR and scanned PDFs

    From 2 comments
    • I am very new to this field, so forgive my ignorance when I ask super basic questions. 1. Does chat-with-pdfs function work with scanned PDFs? 2. In the video example for…
      cheema33 on HN
    • If I've already run OCR on my PDFs and that's added now as an invisible layer, would it work then? I've had a workflow digitizing my incoming paper documents, running OCR, and…
      smeej on HN
  • Offline or bulk document indexing

    From 2 comments
    • I am very new to this field, so forgive my ignorance when I ask super basic questions. 1. Does chat-with-pdfs function work with scanned PDFs? 2. In the video example for…
      cheema33 on HN
    • Right now it supports selecting & uploading a _few_ PDFs on chat-creation. Those PDFs get indexed online -- i.e. while the user waits. So it doesn't scale well with the number of…
      d7y on HN
  • Linux compatibility with Alpine and other distros

    From 1 comment
    • I'm not able to use this locally on Alpine Linux because ollama needs glibc.
      jart on HN

Questions

  • Can a directory of PDFs be queried?

    From 1 comment
    • Can a directory of PDFs be queried or does it only support a single document?
      teruakohatu on HN
  • How does it differ from Danswer and Khoj?

    From 1 comment
    • Great job. This is a relatively crowded area, particularly RAG style chat systems. It might be nice for SecureAI to call out what makes their product different from other open…
      vunderba on HN

Alternatives named

  • Danswer

    From 1 comment
    • Great job. This is a relatively crowded area, particularly RAG style chat systems. It might be nice for SecureAI to call out what makes their product different from other open…
      vunderba on HN
  • Khoj

    From 1 comment
    • Great job. This is a relatively crowded area, particularly RAG style chat systems. It might be nice for SecureAI to call out what makes their product different from other open…
      vunderba on HN
  • ChatPDF

    From 2 comments
    • Hey everyone, We have been building SecureAI Tools -- an open-source application layer for ChatGPT and ChatPDF-like AI tools. It works with locally running LLMs as well as with…
      d7y on HN
    • Nice tool. However, these days, people are looking for something that is more feature-rich and can perform various tasks. Building an RAG system with a chat interface is common.…
      sunnysogra on HN

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