Agora

Web and SaaS

product search engine

SHOW HN2023

317points
268comments
#131of 3,109 in 2023
Top 5%of 2023 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

20 positive, 66 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 41 critical, out of 130 comments about the project. Thread score -0.15.

Idea: 8 for, 9 againstExecution: 0 for, 14 againstPricing: 1 for, 7 againstPerformance: 0 for, 4 againstDesign: 1 for, 3 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fast progress and responsive maker

    From 1 comment
    • So cool, good luck in the marriage, you made a very cool thing!!
      IcyHordr on HN

Objections

  • Search relevance is poor (red shoes, andy cooks)

    From 3 comments
    • https://www.searchagora.com/search?query=red%20shoes It doesn’t work very well.
      hipadev23 on HN
    • Agora also doesn't return red shoes for the search query "red shoes". Seems like you haven't fully solved the problem yet :) From a technical perspective, crawling 25M products…
      muratsu on HN
    • Not only is the search complete dogshit (for example, I searched "andy cooks", the title of a book which I know for a fact is on several Shopify sites, and didn't get any results…
      mvdtnz on HN
  • No region or shipping filter

    From 2 comments
    • I like it. I need to be able to filter search to if it will deliver to my country. It desperately needs some indication that your action is being processed, like a spinner, when…
      quickthrower2 on HN
    • Not only is the search complete dogshit (for example, I searched "andy cooks", the title of a book which I know for a fact is on several Shopify sites, and didn't get any results…
      mvdtnz on HN
  • Slow search performance

    From 2 comments
    • Searching is slow (kinda expected that right now), but after clicking a product and then hitting back, I have to wait for the search again. Not at computer so I didn't check the…
      twothamendment on HN
    • I like it. I need to be able to filter search to if it will deliver to my country. It desperately needs some indication that your action is being processed, like a spinner, when…
      quickthrower2 on HN
  • Unclear value proposition versus large marketplaces

    From 2 comments
    • Agora also doesn't return red shoes for the search query "red shoes". Seems like you haven't fully solved the problem yet :) From a technical perspective, crawling 25M products…
      muratsu on HN
    • Basically it’s Amazon
      b2bsaas00 on HN
  • Authenticity concerns about the founder story and holding company

    From 2 comments
    • The Terms page goes to "Jaggi Enterprises", "A Modern Investment Fund. We buy, build, and invest in software companies with recurring revenue.". So maybe this is not really…
      TekMol on HN
    • I'm sorry, but I have to question where this heartfelt story about looking out for your wife is in any way real? The website certainly doesn't look like a side project, it has a…
      dns_snek on HN

Requests

  • Add ships-to or region filter

    From 2 comments
    • I like it. I need to be able to filter search to if it will deliver to my country. It desperately needs some indication that your action is being processed, like a spinner, when…
      quickthrower2 on HN
    • Not only is the search complete dogshit (for example, I searched "andy cooks", the title of a book which I know for a fact is on several Shopify sites, and didn't get any results…
      mvdtnz on HN
  • Add loading spinner or progress indicator

    From 1 comment
    • I like it. I need to be able to filter search to if it will deliver to my country. It desperately needs some indication that your action is being processed, like a spinner, when…
      quickthrower2 on HN
  • Cache search results so back navigation is fast

    From 1 comment
    • Searching is slow (kinda expected that right now), but after clicking a product and then hitting back, I have to wait for the search again. Not at computer so I didn't check the…
      twothamendment on HN
  • Curate or audit stores to remove low quality ones

    From 1 comment
    • I built this a couple years ago (now defunct) for the same reason :) The public JSON endpoints on shopify stores make it pretty easy to get the data. You mentioned using Mongo…
      callmeed on HN
  • Track price changes over time

    From 1 comment
    • Great project. If you continue to crawl the data, be sure to save it so you can detect price changes a la camelcamelcamel.
      xnx on HN

Questions

  • How the scraper was built and what it cost at scale

    From 2 comments
    • What was the process for scraping 25M products ? I have always used standard python tools like selenium, bs4 and the like. But I'm guessing none of these work at scale. Could you…
      screye on HN
    • What technology did you use to build the scraper and how did you get around the usual challenges (anti bot, ip banning, etc) with scraping large amounts of data?
      misterbwong on HN
  • How the initial list of Shopify stores was obtained

    From 2 comments
    • Cool! But how did you get the initial dataset of 643,000+ Shopify stores (data as per your “About” page) in the first place, to then scrape the products from their /products.json…
      Asparagirl on HN
    • wow! Nice work. I've been trying to build an index of shopify stores. Did you search for all domains pointing to shopify's name servers?
      glohbalrob on HN
  • What the revenue model is

    From 1 comment
    • What's your revenue model? I see you expanded on the details of your $1.5K monyhly cost, but failing to see how you make money? Affiliates fees?
      krauses on HN

Alternatives named

  • Shop.app

    From 2 comments
    • Cool project but Shopify already has this. https://shop.app https://shop.app/search/results?query=red%20shoes
      taimurayaz on HN
    • Shopify has tried a few times to build a tool like this but hasn’t ever managed to get any traction. I think that missing any curation at all could be what eventually kills it.…
      pitched on HN
  • Klarna

    From 1 comment
    • Maybe I'm clearly ignorant, but how does this differ from Klarna (https://www.klarna.com)?
      usrme on HN
  • Amazon

    From 1 comment

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