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#774of 3,109 in 2023
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RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

7 positive, 10 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 19 critical, out of 38 comments about the project. Thread score -0.24.

Privacy: 0 for, 5 againstPerformance: 0 for, 5 againstIdea: 2 for, 2 againstPricing: 2 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Free and open source with no login required

    From 2 comments
    • > We don’t require an email, login, or payment to use our terminal (it is free as in speech and as in beer). This excites me. I was excited to try a new terminal last week and I…
      zerojames on HN
    • > What if your command line terminal could display more than just text? That’s crazy right (I can hear the screams of thousands of graybeard sysadmins). The screams are because…
      yjftsjthsd-h on HN
  • Polished website and thoughtful delivery

    From 2 comments
    • > We don’t require an email, login, or payment to use our terminal (it is free as in speech and as in beer). This excites me. I was excited to try a new terminal last week and I…
      zerojames on HN
    • I’m not in the market for a new terminal right now, but I dig your announcement: you explain the license, the languages in the stack, and the future revenue model, which are my…
      sneak on HN

Objections

  • Remote helper installs software on SSH connection without prompting

    From 2 comments
    • > […] I ssh'd to another machine and was slightly disconcerted to see it installing software on first connection? That sounds really disturbing and immediately turns me off this…
      elaus on HN
    • It absolutely should not be running commands on a remote host without prompting first!
      smcleod on HN
  • Non-ASCII characters fail to render

    From 1 comment
    • I'm in the same boat as many -- not particularly excited by the idea of a new terminal, but curious enough to take a look and (unusually) a smidge interested after seeing the…
      andrewaylett on HN
  • Electron is heavy and uses lots of memory and CPU

    From 3 comments
    • 170+ MB resident after subtracting shared pages to show a single terminal. Added a couple more tabs and it grew to 200 without any other interactions. seems like a lot to me.
      audidude on HN
    • Why are there no native apps anymore today? Why does everyone ride the Electron bloatware?
      nodomain on HN
    • The ui looks extremely cluttered when all I want is a terminal. I am not using most of the features most of the time. Also, this is a frontend for bash, which I don't use. So…
      vrighter on HN
  • Only supports bash, zsh not yet supported

    From 2 comments
    • The ui looks extremely cluttered when all I want is a terminal. I am not using most of the features most of the time. Also, this is a frontend for bash, which I don't use. So…
      vrighter on HN
    • i'd love to figure out what is causing this as we haven't been able to repro it. if you don't mind adding a comment to the issue with anything novel or interesting in your…
      sawka on HN
  • Cluttered UI and unnecessary features

    From 3 comments
    • The ui looks extremely cluttered when all I want is a terminal. I am not using most of the features most of the time. Also, this is a frontend for bash, which I don't use. So…
      vrighter on HN
    • I tried it, it’s nice overall, I thought it’s CPU intensive but it turned out it’s because I have htop running in wave terminal, running it outside however seems to be normal. My…
      tamimio on HN
    • > terminal DevEx across the board and fix all sorts of terminal micro-frustrations I believe you believe this such a thing exists - I'd like to read/hear your thoughts on this -…
      CoolCold on HN

Requests

  • Zsh support

    From 2 comments
    • zsh support and international character support are our top two issues right now. I know the intl chars can work, we just didn't do enough international testing before launch.…
      sawka on HN
    • Zsh is not yet supported, it's very high on our list of priorities!
      esimkowitz on HN
  • International character support

    From 2 comments
    • I'm in the same boat as many -- not particularly excited by the idea of a new terminal, but curious enough to take a look and (unusually) a smidge interested after seeing the…
      andrewaylett on HN
    • I'm not sure "international" is the right characterisation (sorry, not sorry). "Non-ASCII", perhaps? Or explicitly list which codepages you do support? It's not like there are no…
      andrewaylett on HN
  • Windows support

    From 2 comments
    • I wish Windows had as many good terminals as MacOS does.
      andrewstuart on HN
    • "Cross-platform" but works only with MacOS and Linux, you should change the wording until it is cross-platform.
      AbraKdabra on HN
  • Prompt before remote helper installation

    From 1 comment
    • It absolutely should not be running commands on a remote host without prompting first!
      smcleod on HN

Questions

  • Why Electron rather than Tauri or Wails

    From 1 comment
    • > We’re proudly built on Electron (just like VSCode, Slack, and Discord) with all of the network code and heavy lifting done in a local Go backend. This enables us to deliver a…
      mdaniel on HN
  • Why venture backed

    From 1 comment
  • Does rendering stream drop frames affect scrolling

    From 1 comment
    • > the frontend can drop frames, while the Go backend is buffering the stream Surely that's not great. Dropped frames are terrible for following what's happening on the screen and…
      cassianoleal on HN

Alternatives named

  • iTerm

    From 1 comment
    • > so I went back to the default macOS one I find iTerm to be the standard among macOS developers.
      solarkraft on HN
  • Warp

    From 1 comment
    • Love this. Though I was cautious initially - just the OSS route with "true" free was very welcome. Out of curiosity - I was surprised there was no mention of Warp.dev here (which…
      flashgordon on HN
  • Alacritty

    From 1 comment
    • For me iTerm was definitely too slow, alacritty is IMO a bit faster. Also heard some good things about Kitty, but that has too many bells and whistles for me. But nothing can…
      SushiHippie on HN
  • WezTerm

    From 1 comment
    • Just in case you haven't tried it and want another option, Wezterm runs anywhere and does pretty much everything. But not AI/webapp stuff.
      AndyKluger on HN

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