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33 positive, 36 neutral or asking, 6 mixed, 16 critical, out of 91 comments about the project. Thread score +0.24.

Idea: 19 for, 5 againstExecution: 0 for, 6 againstDocs: 1 for, 4 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 against

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What people liked

  • Fun and educational interactive way to learn the four color theorem

    From 4 comments
    • I showed this to my two kids, and we all three enjoyed it. The zero knowledge proof portion didnt really click for me, but we liked the four color map theorem stuff. This led me…
      bgoated01 on HN
    • [spoiler alert] I knew that 4 colours sufficed for any arbitrary map from back in the day when I learned this, but still I found it VERY rewarding by attempting to draw a map…
      franciscop on HN
    • This was one of the cooler teaching examples I've ever played with... awesome job! Appreciate the warning that the 5 color map is "very difficult". It felt easy enough, and I…
      gkoberger on HN
    • I love this! I'd for this to be a more typical experience in math class (I bought Paul Lockhart's "measurements" but gave up because I felt like I needed a sandbox to play with…
      OmarShehata on HN
  • Zero-knowledge proof illustration helped some people learn the concept

    From 2 comments
    • Nice! I knew the 4-colour theorem but the zero knowledge proof illustration was great. I didn't get it initially but the FAQ cleared it up and I felt like I learned something as…
      snthpy on HN
    • This was fun, I went into this thinking "Ha I already know this theorem" but came out learning something about zero knowledge proofs!
      sakras on HN
  • Good for use with kids and in classrooms or museums

    From 3 comments
    • You might want to get into touch with some museums on science topics to see if they are up to show it. I live in Germany at the moment and know of at least two MINT focused…
      nirolo on HN
    • I loved this, and, like others, walked through it with my two kids (7,9). They have up at the last page but they seemed to enjoy the process nonetheless! Good job, would love to…
      riffraff on HN
    • This is awesome and I hope in-general that a lot more education is done this way, especially with complicated concepts. I wonder if this sort of interactive toy explanation is…
      gsuuon on HN

Objections

  • Zero-knowledge proof example confusing and not connected to the coloring game

    From 4 comments
    • Loved the interactions and flow overall but I'm a bit lost on the zero knowledge proof example. I'm familiar with the concept but I don't follow how the example is one. E.g. "By…
      zamadatix on HN
    • Can you add to the FAQ at the end an answer to the question "How do I know you're not just showing me two random colors?"? It's possible this is already addressed and I missed it.
      AndrewOMartin on HN
    • How does the zero-knowledge solution make sense? Can't you just cheat and show me two random different colors whenever I click two post-its?
      personjerry on HN
    • Great job! I enjoyed going through the steps. The final though seemed like a huge leap for me, who don’t know anything about those math mysteries (which I assume is your target…
      soneca on HN
  • Three-color challenge and five-color warning are confusing or buggy in places

    From 4 comments
    • I know that it is impossible, but it was fun to try to make a 5 color map work. That being said, is this a bug? https://imgur.com/a/zbkYg9j I can't seem to wrap my head around…
      MrZander on HN
    • There seems to be an error in the backtracking algorithm. E.g.: https://imgur.com/a/1miv1AK
      trirpi on HN
    • It showed a complicated map and asked me if it was 3-colorable. Then it said it can convince me that it's 3-colorable without revealing the solution. But then it demonstrated…
      Timwi on HN
    • > Warning: very difficult! Skip after trying a lot. I think "very difficult" is misleading here. It implies there is an answer if you try hard enough.
      gpnt on HN
  • Mobile and UI issues such as Firefox next button and context menus

    From 2 comments
    • In Android using Firefox the button to go to the next challenge doesn't seem to work.
      dunefox on HN
    • It's very fun! Only thing I would change is to make it so clicking on the picture doesn't trigger a text select, it was hard to play because a context menu kept popping up every…
      ModernMech on HN

Requests

  • Fix backtracking errors and bugs in map coloring

    From 2 comments
    • There seems to be an error in the backtracking algorithm. E.g.: https://imgur.com/a/1miv1AK
      trirpi on HN
    • I know that it is impossible, but it was fun to try to make a 5 color map work. That being said, is this a bug? https://imgur.com/a/zbkYg9j I can't seem to wrap my head around…
      MrZander on HN
  • Add FAQ and clearer explanations, especially for zero-knowledge proofs

    From 2 comments
    • Can you add to the FAQ at the end an answer to the question "How do I know you're not just showing me two random colors?"? It's possible this is already addressed and I missed it.
      AndrewOMartin on HN
    • Great job! I enjoyed going through the steps. The final though seemed like a huge leap for me, who don’t know anything about those math mysteries (which I assume is your target…
      soneca on HN
  • Allow moving points and right-click removal

    From 1 comment
    • Ahh, very nice. It was fun to rediscover/relearn some of these things through this game. Very nice wording on the 5-color challenge! I think it was the perfect balance. One thing…
      aib on HN
  • Add Europe or other continents

    From 1 comment
    • Would be nice to Introduce another continent like Europe :) it looks really nice tho!
      ceva on HN

Questions

  • How does the zero-knowledge proof example actually prove anything

    From 2 comments
    • Loved the interactions and flow overall but I'm a bit lost on the zero knowledge proof example. I'm familiar with the concept but I don't follow how the example is one. E.g. "By…
      zamadatix on HN
    • How does the zero-knowledge solution make sense? Can't you just cheat and show me two random different colors whenever I click two post-its?
      personjerry on HN
  • Further reading on link between this problem and neural net training

    From 1 comment
    • You mention that this problem has overlap with training neural nets. Could you link some further reading for this? :)
      yochem on HN

Alternatives named

  • Simon Tatham's Puzzles collection

    From 1 comment
  • Paul Lockhart's Measurements book

    From 1 comment
    • I love this! I'd for this to be a more typical experience in math class (I bought Paul Lockhart's "measurements" but gave up because I felt like I needed a sandbox to play with…
      OmarShehata on HN

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