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HyperDX

Open-source Kibana alternative for logs and traces in ClickHouse

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#clickhouse#observability#log search#distributed tracing#open source

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40comments
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How HN took it

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4 positive, 12 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 1 critical, out of 17 comments about the project. Thread score +0.17.

Design: 1 for, 1 againstExecution: 1 for, 0 againstPricing: 1 for, 0 againstPerformance: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fast search and easy setup compared with Grafana and Google's suite

    From 3 comments
    • It is actually really great! Works out of the box, does it with a single-page UI, and it is not slow. It's very close to a log viewer I always dreamed of. The UI is much better…
      zX41ZdbW on HN
    • A happy HyperDX customer here. Can't recommend it enough. We wanted something good for tracing and logs, without the price tag we were used to from datadog. We've been pleasantly…
      lunarcave on HN
    • We use HyperDX for our observability! We had been using google's observability suite before, because we're using GKE anyways, but HyperDX's search over traces is just waaaay…
      maxthegeek1 on HN
  • Better UI than Grafana for logs

    From 1 comment
    • It is actually really great! Works out of the box, does it with a single-page UI, and it is not slow. It's very close to a log viewer I always dreamed of. The UI is much better…
      zX41ZdbW on HN

Objections

  • Not a true one-to-one Kibana replacement; less approachable for non-technical users

    From 2 comments
    • Hmm, this is not the "Kibana" alternative I imagined. Kibana was supposed to be an easy UI. You go to Discover, and the data automatically shows in chronological order, I can…
      est on HN
    • I think your project needs a 'Comparison to Kibana' section. Sell your project to me: I am currently using Kibana, why should I switch?
      mathfailure on HN
  • Concern that the company may later change licensing

    From 1 comment
    • Whats hilarious is that Kibana started out as a Open Source. Hard to trust anything released as OSS these days that hits this site run by a for profit company.. Its all destined…
      miah_ on HN

Requests

  • Support for other backends such as VictoriaLogs

    From 1 comment
    • HyperDX looks great! Are you going to add support for other backends (aka data sources) in order to become "Grafana for logs" solution? For example, I'd be glad to see the…
      valyala on HN
  • Documentation on full-text search indexing

    From 1 comment
    • Can you clarify: Does the full-text search for logs linearly search all logs like Loki does, or can it speed it up with an index? The docs at https://www.hyperdx.io/docs/search…
      nh2 on HN
  • Updated Cloudflare Workers OTel docs

    From 1 comment
    • Neat! I was looking to replace DataDog with an open source alternative. I'm collecting the logs and batch sending them to DataDog using their batch http-intake API. I'm looking…
      lpammant on HN

Questions

  • Does full-text search use an index like bloom filters?

    From 2 comments
    • Can you clarify: Does the full-text search for logs linearly search all logs like Loki does, or can it speed it up with an index? The docs at https://www.hyperdx.io/docs/search…
      nh2 on HN
    • You'd generally add an index to your logs in Clickhouse to do searching (via ngram or token bloom filters typically:…
      mikeshi42 on HN
  • Does it set up recommended indexes automatically and replace Grafana plus Loki?

    From 2 comments
    • Thanks! When using full open-source HyperDX (beyond the Kibana part), inclusive of your choices of ingestion and controlling Clickhouse, does it set up the recommended indexes…
      nh2 on HN
    • yes! the full stack includes our recommended schema which has the indexes set up - it's a drop in replacement for anything that would ingest Otel-based telemetry! If you already…
      mikeshi42 on HN
  • Does it work with S3-backed ClickHouse storage?

    From 2 comments
    • Do you support when using S3 object storage as a backing for Clickhouse? One of Grafana's advantages is its very low cost of running because you can send everything to object…
      ChocolateGod on HN
    • Yup! We're agnostic to the storage medium underneath as Clickhouse's interface doesn't change based on the disk layout backing the table. In our hosted version we use S3 as well.…
      mikeshi42 on HN

Alternatives named

  • Grafana with ClickHouse plugin

    From 2 comments
    • Very interested - I'm currently toying with Grafana set up in the same way, i wonder how this compares?
      akdor1154 on HN
    • If you're using the Grafana Clickhouse plugin - a number of things we do differently to them today: - We support Lucene-based search, which means it's a lot easier to find the…
      mikeshi42 on HN
  • Elastic Kibana

    From 2 comments
    • I think your project needs a 'Comparison to Kibana' section. Sell your project to me: I am currently using Kibana, why should I switch?
      mathfailure on HN
    • Totally fair! Here's a few on the top of my head, they're mostly about Elastic really but of course Kibana is only really useful on ES: 1. At my last job we were running some of…
      mikeshi42 on HN
  • Grafana with Loki

    From 2 comments
    • Can you clarify: Does the full-text search for logs linearly search all logs like Loki does, or can it speed it up with an index? The docs at https://www.hyperdx.io/docs/search…
      nh2 on HN
    • Thanks! When using full open-source HyperDX (beyond the Kibana part), inclusive of your choices of ingestion and controlling Clickhouse, does it set up the recommended indexes…
      nh2 on HN
  • VictoriaLogs

    From 1 comment
    • If you want fast searching for some unique word or phrase across terabytes of logs (aka "needle in the haystack" type of search), then take a look at VictoriaLogs [1] (I'm the…
      valyala on HN
  • Quesma

    From 1 comment
    • You can also use Quesma and real Kibana with ClickHouse too. Disclaimer: Co-founder of Quesma.
      jakozaur on HN

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