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computer vision api

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179points
72comments
#86of 1,739 in 2013
Top 5%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

6 positive, 14 neutral or asking, 6 mixed, 27 critical, out of 53 comments about the project. Thread score -0.34.

Performance: 1 for, 23 againstIdea: 3 for, 0 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstPricing: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Works well on some images and is easy to use

    From 2 comments
    • Did a few tests and it works pretty well! No false positives at least. Any plans to increase the number of objects you can search for at once? Very interested in using this but…
      makeee on HN
    • Works well! Found a few it didn't work on. For example, it didn't detect an airplane in this image (but it's a fighter jet, so maybe not part of the training set):…
      yesimahuman on HN
  • Free tier is appealing

    From 1 comment
    • That's great! I like that you guys are offering a small free usage tier!
      IceyEC on HN

Objections

  • Misses many objects such as airplanes and cats

    From 4 comments
    • Tried detecting Airplanes on this image with 18 airplanes, but it only detected 4 of them.…
      limejuice on HN
    • Tried to detect Cats in a whole room full of cats, and it detected zero cats. http://englishrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/130-cats-1.jpg
      limejuice on HN
    • detected 2 planes, there are 7 http://iskin.co.uk/wallpapers/imagecache/1280x800/jet_plane_formation.jpg seems too buggy to pay just yet
      mephi5t0 on HN
    • It didn't recognise the cat in this picture (http://i.imgur.com/TgFaJh.jpg) so I'm doubtful of it's practicality.
      cabalamat on HN
  • Reports false positives and wrong counts

    From 3 comments
    • http://rumors.automobilemag.com/files/2012/11/2013-VW-Eos-front-three-quarter-with-plane.jpg detected 3 planes... there is only 1 plane and a car
      mephi5t0 on HN
    • It detects a false positive in this picture for "full-body person": http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8232/8366217251_972624d84b_b.jpg The man is detected, but also a shape above the…
      mrtbld on HN
    • Wow, I just tried this image of faces: http://3rdarm.biz/images/2010/02/faces.jpg It got almost all of them but so many errors. It can't detect sheeps either. I was really…
      zopticity on HN
  • Video pricing too high

    From 1 comment
    • As a long time CV enthusiast, I applaude the tech and the way you guys make it "just work". However for any serious application I feel a few things are missing: - your pricing…
      steeve on HN
  • Face detection stops at four faces

    From 1 comment
    • If you read the description on the site, you'd know that the face detection stops after finding 4 faces.
      bsenftner on HN

Requests

  • Detect more than four objects at once

    From 2 comments
    • Did a few tests and it works pretty well! No false positives at least. Any plans to increase the number of objects you can search for at once? Very interested in using this but…
      makeee on HN
    • Yes! Scanning for more than 4 objects at once (which is currently supported) is something that we definitely want to enable in the future. The only constraint is the number of…
      jluan on HN
  • Confidence scores on detections

    From 2 comments
    • As a long time CV enthusiast, I applaude the tech and the way you guys make it "just work". However for any serious application I feel a few things are missing: - your pricing…
      steeve on HN
    • Hey steeve, thanks for the really kind feedback! We're aware of the video pricing issue, and it's something that we're thinking hard to come up with a solution to for makers and…
      jluan on HN
  • Video support at lower cost

    From 2 comments
    • As a long time CV enthusiast, I applaude the tech and the way you guys make it "just work". However for any serious application I feel a few things are missing: - your pricing…
      steeve on HN
    • Hey steeve, thanks for the really kind feedback! We're aware of the video pricing issue, and it's something that we're thinking hard to come up with a solution to for makers and…
      jluan on HN

Questions

  • Is it built on the Felzenszwalb part-model code

    From 2 comments
    • It is probably based on "Object Detection with Discriminatively Trained Part Based Models"; Pedro F. Felzenszwalb"... Somebody took http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~rbg/latent/…
      dchichkov on HN
    • This is not Pedro Felzenszwalb's discriminative part-model algorithm. This is simple AdaBoost. The authors have labeled a bunch of datasets (1000s of them) and are able to detect…
      ank286 on HN
  • Is the Mechanical Turk approach cheaper for accuracy

    From 2 comments
    • Failed completely for me across a half dozen tries. I wonder how cheaply you could get results via Mechanical Turk. I bet you could get much more accurate results for a very low…
      forrestthewoods on HN
    • One to two cents a task. Anytime you have a language agnostic task (identifying/classifying objects, etc), the tasks can be done very cheaply. Just make sure you do triplicate…
      aantix on HN

Alternatives named

  • OpenCV

    From 3 comments
    • Can you give me bit more technical background. Tell me how this is better than for eg. out of the box openCV filters.
      bluishgreen on HN
    • Over a dozen experiments, the recognition rate for faces seems to be about 70%. Example of failure: only 2 faces detected here (in particular NOT the one in focus)…
      fchollet on HN
    • Try OpenCV: http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/
      thechut on HN
  • libccv

    From 1 comment
    • shamelessly plug: libccv supports REST-ful API in 0.4 version, it is open-source, and free: http://libccv.org/doc/doc-http/. Trained pedestrian / car / face detectors are included.
      liuliu on HN
  • Mechanical Turk

    From 1 comment
    • Failed completely for me across a half dozen tries. I wonder how cheaply you could get results via Mechanical Turk. I bet you could get much more accurate results for a very low…
      forrestthewoods on HN

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