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Heap is a new approach to analytics. Just capture everything

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#web analytics#event tracking#retroactive analysis#user analytics

339points
201comments
#25of 1,739 in 2013
Top 2%of 2013 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

18 positive, 48 neutral or asking, 5 mixed, 40 critical, out of 111 comments about the project. Thread score -0.17.

Pricing: 3 for, 12 againstIdea: 5 for, 5 againstExecution: 2 for, 8 againstPrivacy: 1 for, 8 againstPerformance: 1 for, 4 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Retroactive analysis and capturing everything without pre-defined events

    From 3 comments
    • Great job! I think other analytics platforms will start to follow suit as more people start to realise that it's cheap enough to just mercilessly capture every user event. The UI…
      Cakez0r on HN
    • this sounds really awesome if they can manage to stay up under heavy load. It's such a huge pain to set up and maintain the tracking of events in application code. Having…
      czzarr on HN
    • This looks great. I was looking in the docs and you even have a way to track purchases/revenue and identify users. In addition, the fact that you're able to associate identity…
      namabile on HN
  • Clean, intuitive UI

    From 1 comment
    • Great job! I think other analytics platforms will start to follow suit as more people start to realise that it's cheap enough to just mercilessly capture every user event. The UI…
      Cakez0r on HN

Objections

  • Pricing is too high for small or high-traffic low-value sites

    From 4 comments
    • Cool service, but the pricing is insanely high. My piddly website gets 100k uniques a month, which would cost $600 to track. Kraaaazy.
      krazydad on HN
    • looks great but you should take a look at your pricing structure! pricing is extremely difficult so I don't mean to over-criticise, the thing is that you've basically priced…
      lingben on HN
    • This seems really interesting, but starting at 250 users per month seems high. I notice the price/active user starts at a penny and falls 60% as the users climb to over 500,000.…
      AaronFriel on HN
    • Wow this is pretty amazing and something I wish google had offered for awhile. The one area where I think your going to need to work on is your pricing. It's just to high for…
      anonfunction on HN
  • Privacy concerns about collecting all user activity

    From 3 comments
    • Welcome to the blacklist. I, for one, very much object to all my clicks and "activity" on a page being captured and streamed down some black hole for god knows what purposes. Not…
      huhtenberg on HN
    • Great technology, but you guys will know a lot about my business and my users and I'd like to be convinced that you won't do ill with this data...not that I don't trust you, but…
      bertomartin on HN
    • Looks nice. I do worry about the privacy implications of analytics like this. I'm also pretty sure that this doesn't fly in Europe... something to consider perhaps!
      jstsch on HN
  • Performance impact of logging every event is unclear

    From 3 comments
    • Looks very cool––what kind of performance hit is introduced by logging every event?
      Jasber on HN
    • What are the performance implications on, say, a javascript web application?
      endlessvoid94 on HN
    • I'm obviously outside of the audience this is for, and probably most other commenters since only one other person mentioned performance. Perf?? And of course, this follows the…
      reddiric on HN
  • Does not support IE8 and older browsers

    From 3 comments
    • Windows user here. The fonts on your site do not render well on Windows machines. I see an increasing number of sites using embedded fonts that, for whatever reason, render…
      meritt on HN
    • The demo page (https://heapanalytics.com/dashboard/demo) fails in IE8. Is it just me or IE8 is just not considered by web startups anymore ? Sorry to deviate a little but every…
      codegeek on HN
    • It's not your imagination. For Heap, it would be a bit unwise to ignore IE < 9 still since they're limiting themselves from the start. A lot of new projects on the front page…
      eksith on HN

Requests

  • Integrate with Analytics.js

    From 2 comments
    • You should integrate with Analytics.js... https://github.com/segmentio/analytics.js
      philfreo on HN
    • Please integrate with Analytics.js!
      philfreo on HN
  • Beta access or invite without request form

    From 2 comments
    • I would love to use this product! I was talking with my team recently about having product similar to heap and we've used bunch of analytics products in the past. @Founders of…
      dm8 on HN
    • Why do a HN launch with "request an invite"? This seems like a common anti-pattern.
      nostromo on HN
  • Cheaper tier for small sites

    From 2 comments
    • This seems really interesting, but starting at 250 users per month seems high. I notice the price/active user starts at a penny and falls 60% as the users climb to over 500,000.…
      AaronFriel on HN
    • Does it also offers cohort abalysis based on the time of a particular event (not just a particular property like Browser)? eg. filter everyone that signed up at the first week of…
      soneca on HN

Questions

  • How is the data stored and what is the stack

    From 2 comments
    • Looks great! I'm mostly intrigued by the ad-hoc Group By query functionality. Traditionally that's an indicator of some sort of relational database on the backend, but is that…
      vyrotek on HN
    • Can you discuss how you address the "schema-on-read" problem? One of the downsides of the cheap bit-bucket approach of tech like NoSQL and Hadoop is that it's easy to get the…
      bravura on HN
  • What happens to costs on traffic spikes

    From 1 comment
    • What happens if I'm a smallish site and suddenly get slashdotted / DDoSed? Will I be charged thousand dollars? Is there a way to cap monthly costs?
      azov on HN
  • How are clicks and scroll events and event naming handled

    From 3 comments
    • Does Heap track event streams like mouse position and scrolling? The storage overhead would be significantly larger than instantaneous events like clicks, but this data would be…
      pnt on HN
    • I imagine that your event feed is going to get pretty unwieldy if you have a thousand events named like the following: ``` div.star.empty button.btn.btn-primary…
      physcab on HN
    • Closing the lightbox doesn't stop YouTube, fyi. Also, can you handle scrolls?
      randall on HN

Alternatives named

  • KISSmetrics

    From 2 comments
    • Welcome to the blacklist. I, for one, very much object to all my clicks and "activity" on a page being captured and streamed down some black hole for god knows what purposes. Not…
      huhtenberg on HN
    • I liked it very much as a non-tech founder that is not quite sure how to define some events on KissMetrics and regret not having qualified a particular form of sign up as an…
      soneca on HN
  • Mixpanel and Segment.io

    From 1 comment
    • It's ironic that on their website they don't have their own code (well, maybe it's on the backend) and use Segment.io + Mixpanel instead.
      isalmon on HN
  • Google Analytics or Urchin

    From 2 comments
    • Anyone know of a decent user-tracking / analytics package that isn't SaaS? And isn't log-based, like Urchin (which I just discovered is yet another victim of Googlicide[1])? My…
      k3n on HN
    • Hope your sites don't have dialup or mobile over 2G users. ever.
      gcb0 on HN
  • Chartbeat

    From 1 comment
    • I can speak to this a little bit, actually. Chartbeat has never supported IE, which as you say sounds like cutting off a major part of your market. Even moreso when you consider…
      Hovertruck on HN

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