Notifon

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wireless iot sensor

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Notifon

This notifying device – electronics, code, design, marketing

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#zigbee#iot sensor#door sensor#notifications#crowdfunding

129points
57comments
#207of 2,272 in 2014
Top 10%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

6 positive, 9 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 14 critical, out of 30 comments about the project. Thread score -0.20.

Docs: 1 for, 3 againstPerformance: 1 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 3 againstIdea: 1 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Impressive that one person built the whole product

    From 1 comment
    • That you managed to do everything is impressive, especially given the costs involved in production tooling for plastics. I assume you had to build a large quantity of PCBA's as…
      pdx on HN
  • Long battery life from low-power design

    From 1 comment
    • I really need to understand and learn how it works on such less power. Kudos.
      motyar on HN

Objections

  • Too expensive for consumers

    From 3 comments
    • This is cool marketing but it is way expensive than I expected. I am not sure pricing is DIY-friendly but you would certainly find people to buy that.
      aalpbalkan on HN
    • I expected this to work through either wifi or a very cheap USB dongle. The price point for a base station with one device should be 49.99 and each additional device should…
      zapt02 on HN
    • I agree this is way too expensive.
      zapt02 on HN
  • Open/closed state detection unclear for magnetic sensors

    From 1 comment
    • Sorry, but just saying "it can do it" without explaining how, is not convincing! The magnetic switch in the video - I have used before, and they do not distinguish between "open"…
      exodust on HN
  • Limited range compared to alternatives

    From 1 comment
    • The key is to get notifications when you're away. BLE don't have a good range (about 10 meters). ZigBee is more like Wifi (about 50/100 meters).
      clement87 on HN
  • Website does not explain the product clearly

    From 2 comments
    • The web page gives me pretty much absolutely no idea what this product does, except for the abstract "notify me of things". How does it do it, how do you interface to it, etc?
      johansch on HN
    • That sounds cool! I do recommend you highlight a few practical use cases, i.e. what benefits does (or will) it provide? Try to lead with why rather than with what. It took me a…
      namenotrequired on HN

Requests

  • Android compatibility

    From 1 comment
    • 1) All screenshots are of iPhones, is there Android compatibility? 2) PushingBox only allows login with a Google account. Both of these mean I could never be your customer.
      edwhitesell on HN
  • Use a cheaper radio such as BLE or WiFi

    From 2 comments
    • I expected this to work through either wifi or a very cheap USB dongle. The price point for a base station with one device should be 49.99 and each additional device should…
      zapt02 on HN
    • Looks great! Out of curiosity, why go with the hub/node approach using ZigBee for sending such a small amount of data? There are WiFi modules like TI's CC3000…
      jpwright on HN
  • Discreet, paintable design

    From 1 comment
    • Congrats, this is an interesting project and props for doing it all on your own! I thought our kind has gone all but extinct these days :) That said, here's a problem from just…
      abcd_f on HN

Questions

  • Why ZigBee instead of WiFi or BLE

    From 2 comments
    • Looks great! Out of curiosity, why go with the hub/node approach using ZigBee for sending such a small amount of data? There are WiFi modules like TI's CC3000…
      jpwright on HN
    • Wow, Amazed someone used ZigBee instead of Bluetooth Low Energy. There's just so many more BLE chips out there and Android and iOS phones are even compatible nowadays.
      lnanek2 on HN
  • FCC compliance

    From 1 comment
    • What do you need to do for FCC compliance? Is it all taken care of because you're using ZigBee?
      smni on HN
  • How the open/closed state is detected

    From 1 comment
    • How do you know the garage door is "open"? If you receive an identical notification whenever the sensor is triggered, the door could be open or closed. With something like a…
      exodust on HN

Alternatives named

  • Sen.se

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting. Seems similar—complete with slightly creepy base station—to Sen.se: https://sen.se/store/cookie/#mother (Though it appears Karotz is a separate thing:…
      itafroma on HN
  • Ninja Blocks

    From 1 comment
    • My first thought was that it looked very similar to Ninja Blocks: http://ninjablocks.com/products/ninja-blocks-kit
      barbs on HN
  • Electric Imp

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting. Seems similar—complete with slightly creepy base station—to Sen.se: https://sen.se/store/cookie/#mother (Though it appears Karotz is a separate thing:…
      itafroma on HN
  • Karotz

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting. Seems similar—complete with slightly creepy base station—to Sen.se: https://sen.se/store/cookie/#mother (Though it appears Karotz is a separate thing:…
      itafroma on HN

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