Crowsnest

Infrastructure

iot device api

SHOW HN2014

61points
38comments
#522of 2,272 in 2014
Top 23%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

6 positive, 5 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 7 critical, out of 18 comments about the project. Thread score -0.01.

Idea: 5 for, 5 againstPricing: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful abstraction for many device types

    From 2 comments
    • Projects like this will be important going forward. Making a robust API that can interface in a simple manner with all of the new types of fancy household gadgets (philips hue,…
      vorsgald on HN
    • Perhaps this is just rephrasing ianawilson's reply, but it seems that if Crowsnest eventually supports fifty different cameras (or switches or thermostats or what have you), then…
      chch on HN
  • Good idea with real use case

    From 1 comment
    • Really brilliant idea and I can definitely see this taking off. We built something like this at Cisco for physical security purposes so there's definitely a use case but I can…
      tixocloud on HN

Objections

  • Cloud service is closed source and creates lock-in

    From 2 comments
    • Not meant as anything but constructive observation - but not open sourcing the core means it could be seen as another closed platform play, with open source plugins being used as…
      dreamfactory2 on HN
    • That way, I could swap out devices or distribute my code to others, without having to worry so much about hardware integration. That sounds valuable from my personal perspective.…
      jamesbritt on HN
  • Per-device pricing is expensive, especially for hobbyists

    From 2 comments
    • So, if I built out 10 RPi based thermometers, that would be $40/month just to get a quick API? If I added a humidity sensor, that would add another $50/month? That's pretty…
      greendot on HN
    • are they charging $5 per device connected to the RPi, or per RPi? Is it monthly? Website is not clear at all.
      viggity on HN
  • Proxy adds unnecessary intermediary; direct device exposure preferred

    From 2 comments
    • I don't get it. API (i.e. standardization; XKCD #927 issues aside) part is understandable - except it's not really a standard at this point. But… why would one need an…
      drdaeman on HN
    • Sure, but wouldn't it be better to reduce those when possible, rather than adding another one, especially yet another under the control of a third party?
      jamesbritt on HN

Requests

  • Open source the core service

    From 2 comments
    • Not meant as anything but constructive observation - but not open sourcing the core means it could be seen as another closed platform play, with open source plugins being used as…
      dreamfactory2 on HN
    • Is it fully open source e.g. can I run my own crowsnest server for free, fork etc? And is there anything around federation and discovery?
      dreamfactory2 on HN
  • Free or community pricing tier for hobbyists

    From 1 comment
    • So, if I built out 10 RPi based thermometers, that would be $40/month just to get a quick API? If I added a humidity sensor, that would add another $50/month? That's pretty…
      greendot on HN
  • Support more protocols such as Modbus, BACnet, ZigBee

    From 1 comment
    • What protocols do you support? BACnet? Modbus? ZigBee? LON? X10? Does it integrate with SCADA systems? Home automation is a messy area with a dozen "standards".
      rmah on HN

Questions

  • What is the actual value-add over device HTTP interfaces?

    From 2 comments
    • Can someone clarify the value-add? Is it a polyfill for APIs? If the device already has an HTTP interface over the network, I don't know if it makes sense to pay per device for…
      hardwaresofton on HN
    • I don't get it. API (i.e. standardization; XKCD #927 issues aside) part is understandable - except it's not really a standard at this point. But… why would one need an…
      drdaeman on HN
  • How does pricing work per device or per RPi?

    From 1 comment
    • are they charging $5 per device connected to the RPi, or per RPi? Is it monthly? Website is not clear at all.
      viggity on HN

Alternatives named

  • Skynet.IM

    From 1 comment
    • These seems very much like Skynet.IM, except Skynet is opensource and you can host it yourself. https://github.com/skynetim
      jamesbritt on HN
  • Webmote

    From 1 comment
    • or you can use an open project with more support https://github.com/dandroid88/webmote could use some api help though i suppose
      dmritard96 on HN
  • IFTTT

    From 1 comment
    • Not meant as anything but constructive observation - but not open sourcing the core means it could be seen as another closed platform play, with open source plugins being used as…
      dreamfactory2 on HN

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