Flakes

Dev tools

front-end framework

SHOW HN2014

438points
93comments
#17of 2,272 in 2014
Top 1%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

DebatedReal support and real criticism

13 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 13 critical, out of 45 comments about the project. Thread score -0.01.

Design: 8 for, 3 againstIdea: 3 for, 5 againstExecution: 0 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Clean, sleek look that suits business apps

    From 4 comments
    • I wish more things looked like this at work. There's apps that look like native apps, there's bootstrap apps, there's all the custom CSS floating around, there's whatever's new,…
      snlacks on HN
    • I think that it looks clean and like it'd be easy to look at all day than something that's flashy.
      nnnnni on HN
    • I'd called that "lean and clean" instead of "boring". And I wish that more user facing apps would look like that, not just internal ones. Maybe it's just me, but all these flashy…
      kbart on HN
    • Well done. I work in a large enterprise and have no design ability. Tired of banging bootstrap together and not quite getting the look you achieved with Flakes. Looking forward…
      rfc791 on HN
  • Grid forms and search/filter design are well liked

    From 3 comments
    • I really like gridforms for dense data-entry forms (http://kumailht.com/gridforms/).
      josekpaul on HN
    • This is really cool and a nice start. One big thing we are dealing with in our internal app are responsive tables. We display some data in tables, but it almost always looks like…
      toddsiegel on HN
    • I think it looks sharp. But the monotonality, or lack of contrast within the layouts blends elements together, so I would find it difficult to read and interact with for an…
      b2themax on HN
  • Useful component set that covers most use cases

    From 1 comment
    • This is a pleasant change. My goto framework for internal apps is Bootstrap (no surprise there) although I actually end up using only a handful of elements. Flakes looks like a…
      krat0sprakhar on HN

Objections

  • Unclear why to choose it over Bootstrap

    From 4 comments
    • Is there any compelling reason to try this if I'm already comfortable with using Bootstrap for internal apps?
      jchendy on HN
    • There's some nice visuals here but it's hard to see why I should choose to invest my time into learning this rather than something more standard like Bootstrap. And I don't…
      pimlottc on HN
    • This looks great. I'd like to know: 1) how does this differ from bootstrap? 2) why a whole new framework, instead of extending bootstrap?
      andyl on HN
    • I prefer something more feature-rich, using a known framework like Bootstrap. There's a lot more features and examples built in to inexpensive templates for Admin interfaces like…
      alongnion on HN
  • Boring, bland design conflicts with user-experience goals

    From 3 comments
    • I'd like to understand more about the rationale that led you down the path of creating this. In my years in enterprise, user and market research has driven the push to create UIs…
      rrrx3 on HN
    • The research shows that there should be a greater convergence because of the cognitive dissonance that occurs otherwise. It is an inarguable fact that people are using software…
      rrrx3 on HN
    • "Compelling" refers to aesthetics and feeling of reward when using the application - "This is an attractive application that makes me feel good when i use it", while "at home &…
      rrrx3 on HN
  • Front-end architecture is regressive, relying on jQuery and server-side rendering

    From 1 comment
    • Lots of nice work put into this, but I think some of the fundamental architectural assumptions are a little regressive. For instance, it looks like the boilerplate expects a lot…
      languagehacker on HN
  • Bugs found in demo controls such as Next button and select all checkbox

    From 2 comments
    • Went to this page: http://getflakes.com/preview/browsing-data.html The 'Next' button on the grid seems to be broken. No javascript error in console. Current stable Chrome, Windows.
      rikkus on HN
    • The 'select all' checkbox on http://getflakes.com/preview/tables.html has no effect my Chrome.
      doque on HN

Requests

  • Add admin components such as grids, cards and wizards

    From 2 comments
    • Nicely done, but if you are really trying to be a framework for internal apps (vs a design framework like bootstrap) - I would focus on adding a couple of more admin-like…
      ckluis on HN
    • This is really cool and a nice start. One big thing we are dealing with in our internal app are responsive tables. We display some data in tables, but it almost always looks like…
      toddsiegel on HN
  • Add charting integration

    From 2 comments
    • Not sure why Bootstrap bloat is a problem if it's just going to be an internal app. I'd rather go with a more familiar, and well known framework, and not have the overhead of…
      hwgd on HN
    • I think it's strange that they use Morris.js[1] for their graphs on the main pages, but don't mention it anywhere. [1]https://morrisjs.github.io/morris.js/
      JelteF on HN
  • Support Bootstrap or Foundation as base styling

    From 1 comment
    • Very nice work. Given the prevalence of Bootstrap and Foundation, it would probably help adoption if there were options with those as the base styling lib. I know there is a lot…
      alanning on HN

Questions

  • How does it differ from Bootstrap

    From 2 comments
    • This looks great. I'd like to know: 1) how does this differ from bootstrap? 2) why a whole new framework, instead of extending bootstrap?
      andyl on HN
    • Is there any compelling reason to try this if I'm already comfortable with using Bootstrap for internal apps?
      jchendy on HN
  • What license is it under

    From 1 comment
    • License? Scanned both the github and docs for any mention of it.
      rMBP on HN

Alternatives named

  • Bootstrap

    From 3 comments
    • Is there any compelling reason to try this if I'm already comfortable with using Bootstrap for internal apps?
      jchendy on HN
    • This looks great. I'd like to know: 1) how does this differ from bootstrap? 2) why a whole new framework, instead of extending bootstrap?
      andyl on HN
    • Not sure why Bootstrap bloat is a problem if it's just going to be an internal app. I'd rather go with a more familiar, and well known framework, and not have the overhead of…
      hwgd on HN
  • Foundation

    From 1 comment
    • Very nice work. Given the prevalence of Bootstrap and Foundation, it would probably help adoption if there were options with those as the base styling lib. I know there is a lot…
      alanning on HN
  • Semantic UI

    From 1 comment
    • Nicely done, but if you are really trying to be a framework for internal apps (vs a design framework like bootstrap) - I would focus on adding a couple of more admin-like…
      ckluis on HN
  • OpenUI5

    From 1 comment
    • What about OpenUI5 for business apps: https://openui5.hana.ondemand.com/#content/Controls/index.html From my initial tests, it's very clean MVC (a bit verbose). Also the deploy…
      ivan_ah on HN
  • SmartAdmin

    From 1 comment
    • I prefer something more feature-rich, using a known framework like Bootstrap. There's a lot more features and examples built in to inexpensive templates for Admin interfaces like…
      alongnion on HN

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