Vector

Productivity

team chat client

SHOW HN2016

186points
88comments
#149of 2,264 in 2016
Top 7%of 2016 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

11 positive, 33 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 10 critical, out of 57 comments about the project. Thread score -0.12.

Idea: 7 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 4 againstPrivacy: 1 for, 2 againstPerformance: 1 for, 2 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Polished interface and open-source Matrix design

    From 2 comments
    • I've been using Vector for Android the last days and I must say I am VERY impressed. Both the vector.im web interface and the smartphone apps are looking polished at a level that…
      unicornporn on HN
    • Matrix is an extremely promising project. It has everything I'm expecting from IM platform so far: it's very open; it's decentralized (I can host my own server and it'll talk to…
      vbezhenar on HN
  • Matrix protocol seen as strong open alternative to other IM platforms

    From 2 comments
    • Matrix is an extremely promising project. It has everything I'm expecting from IM platform so far: it's very open; it's decentralized (I can host my own server and it'll talk to…
      vbezhenar on HN
    • They have completely different architectures and philosophies. Matrix is a decentralised conversation database - it's all about synchronising communication history between the…
      Arathorn on HN

Objections

  • Android version depends on Google Play Services (GCM), blocking F-Droid and degoogled phones

    From 2 comments
    • Matrix and vector look more interesting by the week. I would really like to see the Android port on F-droid. I haven't done a tonne of research, but I believe Vector uses Google…
      jalami on HN
    • Leaving people no option but to use Google's infrastructure (if they want to participate with anything better than a browser) seems an ENORMOUS gap, given the rest of the…
      dlmetcalf on HN
  • Naming of Vector and Matrix is hard to search for and confusing

    From 2 comments
    • I'm not trying to be rude by saying this, but these names "Vector" and "Matrix" are far from Google-able, and sometimes (esp. in game development, and other scientific fields I'm…
      slimsag on HN
    • I've been using Vector for Android the last days and I must say I am VERY impressed. Both the vector.im web interface and the smartphone apps are looking polished at a level that…
      unicornporn on HN
  • Docs lack end-user information and setup guides

    From 1 comment
    • Looks very interesting, but the site is still lacking some important information (or not very clear) from an end-user perspective. Why is there no description of the features?…
      pjtr on HN

Requests

  • Support push notifications without Google services

    From 2 comments
    • I hadn't tried it, no. Was just going on what others had said here. That's great to hear it has at least some sort of fallback! Polling however is typically too battery draining…
      dlmetcalf on HN
    • What about using a GCM implementation like microg?
      synchronise on HN
  • Pidgin or other desktop client support

    From 1 comment
    • Is there some way to connect to this using pidgin on Linux?
      xfalcox on HN

Questions

  • Is end-to-end encryption available yet

    From 2 comments
    • Does it have encryption already? Because at top it says so, but at the bottom it says not yet. >Soon, protect your conversation with state of the art end-to-end encryption using…
      myaccountzz on HN
    • > THE leading E2E implementation Wait, Matrix has E2E encryption?
      rhaps0dy on HN
  • What license the Matrix specification uses

    From 1 comment
    • Am I missing something here? What license is the Matrix Specification itself under? (I know most of the implementations themselves are ASLv2). It seems really unclear from the…
      dlmetcalf on HN

Alternatives named

  • Slack

    From 1 comment
    • Nobody has said the word "slack" yet... but am I interpreting this correctly? An open source clone of slack? If so, it's very interesting. I wonder if they are taking any steps…
      cshimmin on HN
  • Mattermost

    From 1 comment
    • I'm curious, how does this compare to open source slack-clones like Mattermost?
      jbk on HN
  • XMPP

    From 2 comments
    • I still don't understand why Matrix was made when XMPP is already a thing; if you're not happy with the existing standard participate in the process, don't just make up a new…
      SamWhited on HN
    • As someone who has self hosted my own XMPP server before and still cries over the move taken by Google and Facebook with their messengers, can someone from the Matrix people…
      rglullis on HN
  • Signal

    From 1 comment
    • Leaving people no option but to use Google's infrastructure (if they want to participate with anything better than a browser) seems an ENORMOUS gap, given the rest of the…
      dlmetcalf on HN

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