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186points
77comments
#149of 2,264 in 2016
Top 7%of 2016 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

3 positive, 11 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 3 critical, out of 17 comments about the project. Thread score -0.06.

Idea: 2 for, 0 againstPerformance: 0 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 againstPrivacy: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Clever and cool idea.

    From 2 comments
    • This is exceedingly cool. If someone wants to play with lower bandwidth data (text, basic file transfer) over sound, it's a pretty active area in the world of amateur radio. You…
      ytjohn on HN
    • GMSK [1] among others. Pretty cool! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum-shift_keying#Gaussian_minimum-shift_keying
      wyldfire on HN

Objections

  • Ultrasonic tones could bother pets.

    From 1 comment
  • Sound-based transfer is unreliable and slow compared with real modems.

    From 2 comments
    • GSM is definitely possible, but you'd struggle to get more than 2kbit/second (and that'd be over a good connection). You'd probably need FEC to pull it off.
      jleahy on HN
    • Baseline (most robust, up to 10 m range) configuration is 562.5 bps. Tops out at 3 Kbps under ideal conditions (maybe 30 cm range).
      piannucci on HN

Requests

  • Demo video.

    From 1 comment
    • I wish there was a youtube link that demo'ed this here :)
      0x0 on HN

Questions

  • Why not implement a traditional modem with SLIP or PPP?

    From 1 comment
    • Clever, an audio soft-modem. Was there a reason to not implement this as an actual modem with a frequency band assigned to either channel and then to run SLIP or PPP over it?
      jacquesm on HN
  • Throughput of the modem?

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting, I had looked around for similar libraries when I started but didn't find many. It looks like ours differ in terms of FEC and configurability. What throughput does…
      brian-armstrong on HN

Alternatives named

  • fldigi amateur radio software

    From 1 comment
    • This is exceedingly cool. If someone wants to play with lower bandwidth data (text, basic file transfer) over sound, it's a pretty active area in the world of amateur radio. You…
      ytjohn on HN
  • quiet-js

    From 1 comment
    • You may be interested in https://github.com/quiet/quiet-js and https://danielrapp.github.io/spectroface/, both encode text / images over audible frequencies, but of course they…
      JorgeGT on HN
  • Chirp audio data transfer

    From 1 comment
    • Yup, a company I co-founded http://chirp.io has been using this technique (well, MFSK) to share data over the air, between mobile and embedded devices for a while now. Easy to…
      goodmachine on HN
  • Sonicnet.js

    From 1 comment
    • Not sure if this is what you meant, but Chromecast's guest mode will pair using ultrasound. The guy who worked on it has some code using the WebAudio API on github and his linked…
      niftich on HN

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