Zsync

Web and SaaS

social discussion platform

SHOW HN2023

207points
124comments
#267of 3,109 in 2023
Top 9%of 2023 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

6 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 37 critical, out of 65 comments about the project. Thread score -0.47.

Idea: 4 for, 21 againstExecution: 0 for, 5 againstDesign: 2 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Optional crypto tipping and anti-censorship stance noted as interesting

    From 2 comments
    • What in the world is going on here? Why is there so much hate for this project? Adding optional ETH donations is cool. I have no idea if it'll work well, but it's cool to try.…
      prohobo on HN
    • Cool idea, I think Ethereum wallets as accounts have good potential to be an elegant solution to spam/bot prevention. I, too, remember the times when Reddit fostered high(er)…
      username923409 on HN
  • Ethereum wallet accounts could help against spam and bots

    From 1 comment
    • Cool idea, I think Ethereum wallets as accounts have good potential to be an elegant solution to spam/bot prevention. I, too, remember the times when Reddit fostered high(er)…
      username923409 on HN

Objections

  • Front page is spam-filled

    From 2 comments
    • Appreciate the anti-censorship stance in theory, but involving cryptocurrencies and hoping that AI some day fixes all your discoverability issues are pretty big red flags to me.…
      bhaney on HN
    • I hope you take this constructively but none of the design decisions you've described sound like they have any chance of working toward your stated goal of fostering high quality…
      xtagon on HN
  • Tags are not a substitute for subreddits

    From 2 comments
    • I have two slightly challenging comments, which I hope you will take as constructive prodding to clarify your thinking. Firstly, you have a bit of dissonance in your thinking…
      heisenzombie on HN
    • I hope you take this constructively but none of the design decisions you've described sound like they have any chance of working toward your stated goal of fostering high quality…
      xtagon on HN
  • Crypto tips are a weak incentive for quality and feel scammy

    From 3 comments
    • I don’t want anything to do with cryptocurrency (each time I tip someone am I creating a taxable transaction?). I’m not even sure what problem it’s solving. Reddit incentivized…
      eli on HN
    • Monetizing content does not increase its “quality” in some absolute sense. Monetizing content causes creators to create the content that monetizes the best. Long thoughtful posts…
      schmichael on HN
    • I hope you take this constructively but none of the design decisions you've described sound like they have any chance of working toward your stated goal of fostering high quality…
      xtagon on HN
  • Lack of moderation or censorship will let spam and abuse through

    From 3 comments
    • I don’t want anything to do with cryptocurrency (each time I tip someone am I creating a taxable transaction?). I’m not even sure what problem it’s solving. Reddit incentivized…
      eli on HN
    • Why do people all say "I don't believe in censorship" and then fail to address the fact that the best online communities all aggressively moderate. There's clearly value in…
      nl on HN
    • Besides the already mentioned subreddits != tags, I also find the “high quality discussion” goal questionable in this idealistic form. There is time for fun, and while some jokes…
      kaba0 on HN
  • ML-based sorting and recommendations are undesirable

    From 2 comments
    • >In the future, we could use ML to offer options to sort comments in more useful ways, such as by sorting by "most insightful". We could determine based on your upvote history…
      dabluecaboose on HN
    • I hope you take this constructively but none of the design decisions you've described sound like they have any chance of working toward your stated goal of fostering high quality…
      xtagon on HN

Requests

  • Add moderation and spam filtering

    From 2 comments
    • I don’t want anything to do with cryptocurrency (each time I tip someone am I creating a taxable transaction?). I’m not even sure what problem it’s solving. Reddit incentivized…
      eli on HN
    • A couple things: - Censorship is okay. Having a high bar for censorship is what places like HN are founded on. Setting guidelines is a good course of action for that. This is…
      kodah on HN
  • Rename the project, since zsync is an existing tool

    From 3 comments
    • You need a new name. zsync is an rsync-like tool optimized for many downloads per file version. zsync is used by Linux distributions such as Ubuntu for distributing fast changing…
      LeoPanthera on HN
    • Zsync is already a thing. http://zsync.moria.org.uk/
      loloquwowndueo on HN
    • Cool idea, I think Ethereum wallets as accounts have good potential to be an elegant solution to spam/bot prevention. I, too, remember the times when Reddit fostered high(er)…
      username923409 on HN
  • Use a subreddit-style community architecture

    From 2 comments
    • I have two slightly challenging comments, which I hope you will take as constructive prodding to clarify your thinking. Firstly, you have a bit of dissonance in your thinking…
      heisenzombie on HN
    • What in the world is going on here? Why is there so much hate for this project? Adding optional ETH donations is cool. I have no idea if it'll work well, but it's cool to try.…
      prohobo on HN
  • Open source the code

    From 1 comment
    • I stopped reading at “Ethereum wallet”. Sounds like a crypto scam to me. Just kidding! That is just the typical HN knee-jerk reaction when they see “ethereum wallet”. Great job —…
      EGreg on HN

Questions

  • What financial incentive does crypto tipping actually create for quality?

    From 1 comment
    • > Anyone who connects an ethereum wallet to their account will also have a (non-invasive) "Tip" option at the bottom of their comment, allowing anyone to directly tip commenters…
      aw1621107 on HN
  • Will it scale?

    From 1 comment
    • I saw it just before someone started spamming it. I like the idea of posts that can have multiple tags. Will it scale?
      donmcronald on HN
  • Why Ethereum rather than a lower-fee chain?

    From 1 comment
    • Some thoughts: 1. The concept of subreddits may seem restrictive, but it's also good at filtering low-effort content when you want a more curated experience. If you allow anyone…
      diego_sandoval on HN

Alternatives named

  • Reddit

    From 2 comments
    • >In the future, we could use ML to offer options to sort comments in more useful ways, such as by sorting by "most insightful". We could determine based on your upvote history…
      dabluecaboose on HN
    • I hope you take this constructively but none of the design decisions you've described sound like they have any chance of working toward your stated goal of fostering high quality…
      xtagon on HN
  • Hacker News

    From 2 comments
    • A couple things: - Censorship is okay. Having a high bar for censorship is what places like HN are founded on. Setting guidelines is a good course of action for that. This is…
      kodah on HN
    • Some thoughts: 1. The concept of subreddits may seem restrictive, but it's also good at filtering low-effort content when you want a more curated experience. If you allow anyone…
      diego_sandoval on HN
  • Voat and Truth Social

    From 1 comment
    • I find it hard to reconcile "reddit is hostile to things like crypto" and "I don't believe in censorship". If you don't believe in censorship, then you should celebrate redditors…
      criley2 on HN

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