Kickflip

Infrastructure

live video streaming sdk

SHOW HN2014

39points
49comments
#810of 2,272 in 2014
Top 36%of 2014 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

4 positive, 14 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 6 critical, out of 24 comments about the project. Thread score +0.04.

Idea: 3 for, 0 againstPerformance: 0 for, 3 againstPricing: 1 for, 2 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Cool idea that could be a holy grail for live streaming

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool. This could be the holygrail for live streaming. Unfortunately Qik was retired. Good job.
      seshakiran on HN
  • Hardware encoding approach is clever

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool! I've recently open sourced a good portion of my game broadcasting SDK, which now has a few people using it for purely making camera apps to stream to RTMP services.…
      jgh on HN

Objections

  • Transcoding on device is costly in CPU and bandwidth

    From 2 comments
    • Transcoding on the client instead of in the cloud increases the amount of CPU and upstream bandwidth needed, and both are in short supply on phones. To put this in perspective,…
      lucasgonze on HN
    • Can you be more specific by "in hardware"? I'll buy that there's some trick analogous to shaders on the desktop. But I'd want to know the specifics to be able to evaluate that.…
      lucasgonze on HN
  • Single stream offers no real advantage over cloud transcoding

    From 1 comment
    • If you only offer a single stream, your claims of being better than cloud-based transcoders have no meaning. You don't transcode, they do. You push a single stream, which any…
      lucasgonze on HN
  • Pricing is hidden behind sign-in

    From 1 comment

Requests

  • RTMP support

    From 2 comments
    • Thanks man! I really appreciate it. All of our streams are HLS rather than RTMP, although we do have RTMP support working in the SDKs, we don't plan on making that a priority…
      Mizza on HN
    • Is the SDK going to allow a way to bypass all of the Kickflip infrastructure to allow the core streaming library to be used on your own maintained infrastructure? On the product…
      Akkuma on HN
  • Option to use own infrastructure instead of Kickflip backend

    From 2 comments
    • Is the SDK going to allow a way to bypass all of the Kickflip infrastructure to allow the core streaming library to be used on your own maintained infrastructure? On the product…
      Akkuma on HN
    • That's good to hear. Is the plumbing the "cost" of using the open source sdk, which in turn technically requires you pay for the service, or is there a way to remove all of the…
      Akkuma on HN

Questions

  • Latency of CDN live stream

    From 1 comment
    • Can you share your experience of the typical delay for CDNed live stream? 5 sec? 10 sec?
      ldarcyftw on HN
  • Hardware requirements for iOS and Android

    From 1 comment
    • Nice work! What are the min hardware requirements for iOS & Android devices?
      yarri on HN
  • Cost of streaming to large audiences

    From 1 comment
    • Can you share the costs of streaming to 100Ks clients?
      oDot on HN

Alternatives named

  • Bambuser

    From 1 comment
    • We found that Bambuser had a delay of around ~60s - ours is 10-20s, depending on the buffer size. It can be brought down to 5-10 by shortening the chunk size, but that increases…
      Mizza on HN
  • Qik

    From 1 comment
    • Very cool. This could be the holygrail for live streaming. Unfortunately Qik was retired. Good job.
      seshakiran on HN
  • Wirecast

    From 1 comment
    • Transcoding on the client instead of in the cloud increases the amount of CPU and upstream bandwidth needed, and both are in short supply on phones. To put this in perspective,…
      lucasgonze on HN
  • VideoCore

    From 1 comment
    • Hey https://github.com/jamesghurley/VideoCore looks great, wish I knew about it earlier.
      srean on HN

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